er, um, guys....unless I'm mistaken Heath has a Shorai battery and likes it and TAftonomos had a faulty SpeedCell and got sucky customer support from SpeedCell.  Did I get that right?  Reading the partial quotes out of context might assign bad vibes to the wrong product/company....

BK

I'm quite pleased with the Shorai in my KTM.   

Quote from: DRKWNG on June 21, 2011, 12:41:06 PM
Think I'm going to pull the Shorai out of the Super Duke and put it in the SC instead. The battery placement on the KTM actually uses the weight of the battery to balance out the bike, and it handles better with the heavier unit in place.

Quote from: DRKWNG on August 02, 2011, 04:34:05 PM
I'm quite pleased with the Shorai in my KTM.   

I didn't say anything against the battery in the first post, just that it upset the center of gravity due to being so much lighter than the stock battery. 

The simple truth is, it started that bike right up after it had sat for three months without being on a tender over the DC winter.  The bike was covered, but not in a garage, so it was exposed to the cold temps the entire time. 

Shorai has been good to me.  Speedcell has been less than helpful

Quote from: BK_856er on August 02, 2011, 04:06:37 PM
er, um, guys....unless I'm mistaken Heath has a Shorai battery and likes it and TAftonomos had a faulty SpeedCell and got sucky customer support from SpeedCell.  Did I get that right?  Reading the partial quotes out of context might assign bad vibes to the wrong product/company....

BK

You're right.  I misquoted.

Removed my previous post.
My Shorai has been working great since I got it.  I think the longest my bike sat was for a couple weeks and it still fired right away.  My stock battery was still OK, but starts were getting harder.

I just wanted to follow up on my previous post.  After replacing the Shorai with a stock battery, I was still experiencing starting issues.  After beating my head against the wall for a couple of days trying to figure out what could be causing the issue, I narrowed it down to a flooded charcoal cannister.  I guess when I installed the Shorai, the tank was pretty full and was tilted enough to flood the cannister.  The flooded cannister prevented to tank from drawing in air after it cooled and caused a vapor lock issue.  Solved that problem with a very quick removal of the cannister and have not had a starting issue since.

I also want to say that Shorai customer service was great and this issue was definitely not caused by their product, but by me being to lazy to completely remove the tank when swapping batteries.  When I get a chance, I will put the Shorai battery back in the bike.   

Quote from: Heath on August 05, 2011, 11:50:24 AM

My Shorai has been working great since I got it.  I think the longest my bike sat was for a couple weeks and it still fired right away.  My stock battery was still OK, but starts were getting harder.

(reviving an old thread)

How long is a stock battery supposed to last? Mine is going on 3 years and still seems strong (knock on wood). I've read other posts where others have replaced their batteries every year. Are these lithium-ion batteries supposed to last longer (i.e . more cycles) or just be lighter and slower discharge rate?

Q1.  not very long.  depends on your climate, use of trickle charger, how far from source of heat while running, and whimsy.

Q2.  All of the above: lighter weight relative to cranking capacity, more reliable discharge, etc.

I replaced my first battery at 4 years, preventative maintenance since I knew it was still good.  My present battery is now 7 years old, hardly ever saw a trickle charger.  I might replace it before the cold weather hits.

I replaced my stock battery at about 5 years.  It was still working and never left me stranded.  I would put it on battery tender 75% of the time the bike was home.  My starts were getting harder though.  I caught a deal on the Shorai on eBay and decided why not give it a chance.  My starts would either be the same or get better; they got better.

Just fitted one into Betty (my mongrol '99 SS1000i.e. bastard child).

Starts up just fine. 

Quote from: Duck-Stew on August 09, 2012, 07:04:05 AM
Just fitted one into Betty (my mongrol '99 SS1000i.e. bastard child).

Starts up just fine. 

Yo, any noticeable weight savings insofar as pushing the bike about? The monster is already a light bike.

Quote from: slowkitty on August 09, 2012, 06:38:06 PM
Yo, any noticeable weight savings insofar as pushing the bike about? The monster is already a light bike.

Doubtful you'll notice a 8-10 lb diff when pushing a bike.

You do notice the weight loss when picking the bike up off the sidestand. It feels like the fuel tank is empty. The battery location on my old 900 has a high c of g.