EPO goes quickly away and leave no traces in the blood but a augmentation in blood cells count produce a certain type of protein ..that' how they find "cheater's" 

for myself having to endure for a couple a years blood scanning in competition..... Knowing all the rigorous manipulation of the sample and how serious it is ...I mean, when you do the test  the women that does the scan stand and looks right at you  .... intimidating the first time but you get use to that 

I'm well place to know that  whit 500 to 600 negative over 20 year.... I would doubt seriously that he was doped 

  Don't forget that most of theses test are "suprise" tests .... they came to the training track and the " Hi, I'm from the athletic federation "" I' here for a suprise test" " please pee in the cup "   

god times ...

stripped him of 7 titles and banned from the races..  -smh- 

Always love reading ober dicta:

QuoteArmstrong sued USADA in Austin, where he lives, in an attempt to block the case and was supported by the UCI. A judge threw out the case on Monday, siding with USADA despite questioning the agency's pursuit of Armstrong in his retirement.

"USADA's conduct raises serious questions about whether its real interest in charging Armstrong is to combat doping, or if it is acting according to less noble motives," such as politics or publicity, U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks wrote.

 

http://m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/us/2607922/coke.bp%3B_ylt=AucuUoFyEKiOAjUUrQInSUqx.tw4%3B_ylu=X3oDMTFzbHViYTI5BGNwb3MDMQRjc2VjA21vYmlsZS10ZARpbnRsA3VzBHBrZwNpZC0yNjA3OTIyBHBvcwMxBHNsawNpbWFnZQ--?ref_w=frontdoors&view=today&.intl=US&.lang=en&.tsrc=yahoo

Quote from: kopfjäger on June 29, 2012, 06:52:29 PMIf he goes down, what will come of his legacy in the Tour?

Quote from: cokey on August 23, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
stripped him of 7 titles and banned from the races..  -smh- 

History will record that he did nothing.

Quote from: ungeheuer on August 24, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
History will record that he did nothing.

Nah, history will record plenty.

Can USADA even tell TdF to strip the medals?  TdF already did their own investigation and turned up nothing.  USADA doesn't oversee TdF.  USADA has only existed since 2000 or so and he was winning medals before that.  Even if they have jurisdiction, how can they go back before they existed?

USADA can't strip the titles/records themselves, but they may be able to force UCI to do so under the world anti-doping pact that both parties have signed onto.  It will be interesting to see how it pans out, as UCI (surprisingly) has been standing in Lance's corner so far...

Can't say I blame Mr. Armstrong from throwing in the towel. The anti-doping agency has been after him since 1999 and have yet to find that he doped.

I am sure the testimony and comments from Floyd Lantis are very credible considering his A and B samples were both positive for doping.

It's nice to see Lance is going to focus on the Livestrong Foundation instead of concentrating on the wild goose chase. Good for him.


//Hunter\\

C'mon Lance, you're just gonna give up?! Well then I guess we know the truth. 

Quote from: kopfjäger on August 24, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
C'mon Lance, you're just gonna give up?! Well then I guess we know the truth. 

USADA say they're going to make all evidence public when the time is right (soon).
Then it won't be up to a court to judge - it will be up to us.

I think that's a smart move from him - he leaves it for us to decide and we will, as throughout his career, believe or hate.

Personally, I think he's clean and that his victories are based less on him being a superior rider and more on the team and it's 100% focus on Lance winning the TdF.

Quote from: kopfjäger on August 24, 2012, 07:58:26 AM
C'mon Lance, you're just gonna give up?! Well then I guess we know the truth. 

How do you figure since he never tested positive?


//Hunter\\

Quote from: JaxSurfer on August 24, 2012, 08:40:46 AM
How do you figure since he never tested positive?


//Hunter\\

Because the TdF people said so.

"The drug tests were gathered as Armstrong prepared for his highly-publicized Tour de France comeback. No positive tests ever were announced from the events he raced or during out-of-competition training. Had Armstrong tested positive, he would've immediately been suspended and his drug samples retested for verification, if he'd asked for an appeal."

The UCI said today that it was awaiting the official report from USADA before taking any action. I don't envy them the decision - yes, there's a lot of credible eye-witness testimony under oath (not just Landis & Hamilton, but Hincapie, Andreau & others - pretty much a who's-who of my U.S. bike heros   ), but there's not a positive test in the record. So the UCI wipes Armstrong off the TdF record books and elevates number two to number one - and then you have names like Zulle, Ulrich & Basso bringing their various doping bans up into the number one slot. Where do you stop?

I hope the Tour says ... "USADA... you're wrong, his titles stay."