Quote from: Raux on August 24, 2012, 09:35:57 AM
I hope the Tour says ... "USADA... you're wrong, his titles stay."

+1!

This whole thing just seems like a vindictive attack on Lance.

I was really hoping he was going to hold strong and not allow the USADA to bully him.

No matter what anyone says Lance is an amazing athlete.  

I'm sure he has many triathlon accolades in his future.

Here's the thing that gets me. The same thing they are accusing him of, others have been caught doing, the failed their tests, so why did he never fail a test... oh yeah cause he didn't cheat.

http://blog.charleslloydfitness.com/2011/05/23/professional-cyclist-drugs/

http://bikepure.org/resources/list-of-banned-substances/types-of-drugs-and-methods-used-in-cycling/

I wonder if the USADA realizes that the vast majority of the public doesn't care if he doped or not. I couldn't do what he does even if I was on drugs. UFC, NFL, MLB, bodybuilding, track and field, and just about every other sport you can name. They all dope and I don't give a crap.

Quote from: kopfjäger on August 24, 2012, 10:10:03 AM
http://blog.charleslloydfitness.com/2011/05/23/professional-cyclist-drugs/

http://bikepure.org/resources/list-of-banned-substances/types-of-drugs-and-methods-used-in-cycling/

Have you read 'about' the source of that article...come on...

http://www.charleslloydfitness.com/about/

Quote from: ungeheuer on August 24, 2012, 05:10:26 AM
History will record that he did nothing.

history will recall that Ulrich who tested positeve and some other guy that tested positivetoo  will become the tour the France winners ......

Yeah strip a the titles from a guy who never tested positive to people how actually tested positive ....

the irony 

Whe just have to ask Sheryl Crow if she even seen  some seringe in the freezer ... 

Quote from: triangleforge on August 24, 2012, 09:19:29 AM
The UCI said today that it was awaiting the official report from USADA before taking any action. I don't envy them the decision - yes, there's a lot of credible eye-witness testimony under oath (not just Landis & Hamilton, but Hincapie, Andreau & others - pretty much a who's-who of my U.S. bike heros   ), but there's not a positive test in the record. So the UCI wipes Armstrong off the TdF record books and elevates number two to number one - and then you have names like Zulle, Ulrich & Basso bringing their various doping bans up into the number one slot. Where do you stop?

Change the story to an accused murderer, all of the witnesses are convicted criminals, the DNA evidence says no, but all of the witnesses say yes.

Seems to me we have a preference for laboratory testing over witnesses when available.  The tests were multiple sample tests and multiple retesting.  And still no doping evidence. 

Quote from: ducatiz on August 24, 2012, 12:32:29 PM
Change the story to an accused murderer, all of the witnesses are convicted criminals, the DNA evidence says no, but all of the witnesses say yes.

Seems to me we have a preference for laboratory testing over witnesses when available.  The tests were multiple sample tests and multiple retesting.  And still no doping evidence. 

and how many times have eyewitness convictions been overturned with physical evidence
in this case the physical evidence shows no doping. its not like the evidence isn't there

Nike says:

http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/24/13456962-lance-armstrong-is-still-our-man-nike-says?lite

I think there is a good chance USADA is going to come out worse for this...

Quote from: Raux on August 24, 2012, 09:35:57 AM
I hope the Tour says ... "USADA... you're wrong, his titles stay."

+1

mitt

If you're not cheating you're not trying, if you get caught you're not trying hard enough. 

Quote from: mitt on August 24, 2012, 01:43:39 PM

+1

mitt

The French press has hated Lance since 1999 for winning "their" Tour. How in the world could he have successfully passed untold hundreds of dope tests when other riders, having to go through the same tests, were found to be positive for PED. Don't you think in this goofy ass world we live in that some "black bag" French operator for the Tour could have doped his dope test and made it positive? How hard would that have been?

And how in the hell does some lame ass US sports anti-dope organization lay claim to "stripping" Lance of his 7 Tour titles? What make the beast with two backsing authority do they have over an UCI race based in France. Hell... even the UCI is on Lance's side!!

The level of bullshit to this witch hunt has no end. It is so one sided it's almost obscene! I can see why Lance has thrown in the towel. How do you win this witch hunt with all the odds stacked against you? I'd probably say make the beast with two backs it too. Enough is enough.

They have produced zero evidence... none, nada, zip. If they had any legit shit on Lance don't you think they would publically released it to the press to back him into a corner? They have only the "alledged" future testimony of old, disgruntled teammates who have had their own doping issues... think that BS helped Floyd Landis sell a few more of his wanker books? What a complete limp dick moron! And that's one of the people the Fed's case rests on? Give me a break!! He's the only doper that should have been stripped of his Tour title. Thankfully he was! And he's still trying to make $$ off of his "Positively False" paperback. I wouldn't let that loser mow my lawn much less believe his testimony against Lance.

This makes me want to mail a check to the Livestrong organization! I don't give a shit about his Tour wins. His help in the fight against cancer is 100 times more important than any bicycle race.

End of rant...

ah ehm.....French hate everyone.