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Ducati as a First Motorcycle?

Started by dangold, September 23, 2012, 12:36:04 AM

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dangold

Hi I wonder if someone could please help me I have just started my journey in getting my motorcycle license but while I am doing this I would like to buy my first motorcycle.
I am looking to buy a used 2004 Ducati 620 Monster its CHF3500/$3750 and has done 26'101'KM it has been checked my a mechanic and just had a tune up, it comes with quite a few accessories swell new Gianelli exhausts and more. Also a 12 month guarantee on the parts.
Is this a good price? Is this a reliable year and type of Duc?

Lastly my motorcycle teacher has told me 'not' to buy a Ducati as it is very difficult to drive and that it will really end up costing me a small fortune in the future. He has told me to buy a Honda 600 or something similar in the Japanese market and to buy this then trade up to a Ducati in a few years or months. This to me seems like something very expensive to do would it not make more sense to just get a second hand Ducati if this is ultimately the only bike I have ever wanted, keep that for a few years then get another bigger newer more expensive ducati?

Also this might be a very dumb question but I am only 21 and just starting to get into motorcycles but the kw output for this bike is 44kw seeing as though im under 25 I can only drive a 25Kw bike I have seen that you can buy the bikes already reduced but can you buy a used bike and get it reduced?
I have actually googled this topic and I can not find it anywhere also how expensive would it be to do this?

Im really loving the feeling of driving a motorcycle and Id love to have a Ducati just everyone keeps telling me not to when at the end of the day im not actually going to buy a bike if its not a Ducati is always had a small passion for them.

Hope you can help.
Dan

IdZer0

#1
I did the exact same thing. My first bike was a 2006 M695 (new) and would do it over in a heartbeat. It really didn't cost much to maintain and had a great time on it. The only thing I regretted was not getting the S2R 800 like I wanted to from the beginning

Personally I think the price might be a bit high (I traded mine in last year for about 4000â,¬ of which I consider 1000â,¬ as a reduction on my new 848). But if the bike is checked out by a mechanic and you get 1 year gaurantee that might be worth it.

Buying a Honda might be cheaper, but would it give you the same satisfaction?

On the matter of the reduced power. Technically that might be possible (ask the dealer) but I think the biggest problem is the paperwork. I suppose you need some proof when you register it and that typically is only accepted from the factory. But again best to ask the dealer about it.

Hope it works out for you

2007 Monster 695, DP ECU, Low mount Alu Termignonis
replaced by 2011 848 EVO

dangold

Thank you and no I really do not want to buy a Honda. I also thought the price might have been abit high but it is Switzerland and everything here is a bit high  [roll]

Raux

#3
Is this a duc dealer. if not contact them and see if they can put on the limiter and give u certification

its a small change if i remember correctly

oh and get frame ,barend and axle sliders.
Its just a bike. a honda is just a bike.
the one that makes your soul feel good is the one u should buy

dangold

should the bike not come with a frame, barend and axle sliders? I spoke to ducati in my area and they are able to limit the output for a price of coarse. I also got the owner to lower the price to Chf 2500 is this a better price? very excited to be on my way to owning a ducati.

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Dirty Duc

Quote from: dangold on September 23, 2012, 12:36:04 AM

Im really loving the feeling of driving a motorcycle and Id love to have a Ducati just everyone keeps telling me not to when at the end of the day im not actually going to buy a bike if its not a Ducati is always had a small passion for them.


There's your answer.  S2R 800 is my first... for similar reasons.

Quote from: dangold on September 24, 2012, 01:03:10 PM
should the bike not come with a frame, barend and axle sliders? I spoke to ducati in my area and they are able to limit the output for a price of coarse. I also got the owner to lower the price to Chf 2500 is this a better price? very excited to be on my way to owning a ducati.


Sliders are not stock, if this bike already has them it's a bonus.  Motorcycles fall down sometimes, sliders help take the sting out of it.

USD$2500 would not be a bad price for a pretty 620 here.  Do you have the equivalent of NADA guides or Kelley Blue book in Alp-land?

ducatiz

I had a Ducati as my first (albeit a '66 Bronco), but I would not advice getting a "nice" bike as your first.

Buy a cheapo 250cc and ride it for 6-9 months to get used to riding.  When you lay it down, or drop it at a red light you won't feel as badly.

Sâ,£3500 isn't so out of line (compared with American values of the same bike) from a private owner and with no warranty -- that 12 month warranty is definitely worth the price difference in my mind.

However, as a second bike..
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uglyducky

Quote from: ducatiz on September 25, 2012, 08:54:33 AM
I had a Ducati as my first (albeit a '66 Bronco), but I would not advice getting a "nice" bike as your first.

Buy a cheapo 250cc and ride it for 6-9 months to get used to riding.  When you lay it down, or drop it at a red light you won't feel as badly.

However, as a second bike..
agreed, just my opinion but i think learning to ride on a bike you won't mind dropping (which you will) is always a good idea.  but to each his own.  once i learned to ride a little better i really enjoyed what ducatis can do more avoided the heartbreak of a drop that only came as a mild upset when i laid down my early japanese beater bikes. 
2008 S4RS - Tricolore #324 (about to get bastardized)
2007 S4RS - pearl/red with some tweaks (sold)
2005 S4R - Bastarda Nera (sold)
2001 M900Sie modded to high holy hell (sold)
2001 996 Biposto - (sold)
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dangold

I understand this. I also am aloud to hire the bike from my riding teacher i pay 30cents per kilometer and then I am aloud to keep it for as many days needed to practice on even use it to go too and from work these bikes are already quite beat up I was going to use one of these bikes for my first few months then take the ducati out of storage for the good summer months.

DarkDucati

Above all else, do what you think is right not what someone else tells you. That said, and you can ignore me too, I bought an S2R 800 as my first bike despite people telling me not too.  I took the Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding class and made a honest effort to never ride above my ability and avoided group rides like the plague and did just fine. Lots of early morning rides on back roads and no drops and no crashes.

I almost bought a smaller non-Ducati and am so glad I didn't. I enjoyed that bike more than anything I ever bought. Ironically, I just took pictures of it today as I'm finally going to sell it (hey look for it in the classifieds in about five minutes).  I have since bought an 848 (that thing is even more wicked fun) and have had a Triumph for a while as well.

Anyhow, best of luck to you and follow your heart and ride well and enjoy the hell out of whatever you buy.   [thumbsup]
Current ride - Triumph Thruxton (don't hate, Ducs still #1)
2008 848 - R.I.P. (by delivery truck)
2006 S2R 800 Dark - SOLD
2006 Triumph Bonneville - SOLD

PhilB

I do not recommend Ducatis as first bikes.  Even the smallest modern Ducatis are fairly powerful and resposnive, and better in the hands of experienced riders.  Your instructor was right about that, although where was wrong is in recommending a Honda 600 instead.  600cc sportbikes are razor-sharp machines for experienced riders as well.  I'd very much recommend a 250cc bike like the Kawasaki Ninja 250 (EX250) or Honda CBR250.  Other decent options, especially if you will be doing more highway riding, and/or are a large person, would be the Ninja 500 (EX500) or Suzuki GS500 (both are no longer in production, but are readily available used).

PhilB
1993 Ducati M900 Monster "Patina" (203,000 miles, so far) -- 1995 Ducati M900 (wife's bike) -- 1972 Honda CB450 (daughter's bike) -- 1979 Vespa P200 (daughter's scoot) -- 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Jr. (1300cc) -- 1964 Vespa GS160 (160cc 2-stroke) -- 1962 Maicoletta scooter (275cc 2-stroke) -- 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter "Elroy" (175cc 4-stroke)

Narflar

My first bike was an M1000.  I promptly fell over on it (not crash, just fell over) due to lack of experience.  A few months later I crashed it.  Nothing major but looking back, the cost to repair what I broke could have bought me a cheap learner bike for year.  It all depends on how much you want to pay to fix stuff.  You're more likely to do something dumb on your first bike.
2012 Ducati Monster 1100 Evo
2008 Honda ST1300
2008 Triumph Speedmaster
2004 Ducati M1000