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ST2 Cafe Racer/Fighter Update

Started by Moto Motivo, October 17, 2012, 12:51:20 PM

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Jimmy6tring


The Don

How the hell did you get that swing arm to fit that frame, well done sir. Does everything line up easily or was it a pain
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Raux

Quote from: The Don on November 29, 2012, 07:17:24 PM
How the hell did you get that swing arm to fit that frame, well done sir. Does everything line up easily or was it a pain
it's a 999 frame and swingarm, monster tank, seat and motor

The Don

Thanks Raux. I thought it was a ST2 frame, that's what you get for coming in late.
I'm still impressed.
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Moto Motivo

Quote from: Raux on November 29, 2012, 09:47:09 PM
it's a 999 frame and swingarm, monster tank, seat and motor

Correction, Multi Strada motor.  999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.
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Raux

Quote from: Moto Motivo on November 30, 2012, 06:48:33 AM
Correction, Multi Strada motor.  999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.

true, at least not without mods.

but yes, i've seen the MTS1000 used for this type of mod before.

Pedro-bot

Quote from: Moto Motivo on November 30, 2012, 06:48:33 AM
Correction, Multi Strada motor.  999 swingarm will not fit on a Monster 1000DS motor.

Ahem...., not true.
Que OneSpeedPaul......
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1KDS

Paul's was a 900SS motor, (same width as a Monster) but he narrowed it.
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Quote from: Pedro-bot on November 30, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
Ahem...., not true.
Que OneSpeedPaul......

A stock 999 Swing arm will NOT fit a stock M1000DS motor without case or swing arm modifications (or both) .

If my memory recalls correctly, OneSpeedPaul fitted a 900S air cooled motor in a 916 frame with a single sided swing arm.
I am using a 999 frame, 999 double sided swing arm and MTS1000DS motor, totally different setup.
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Syscrush


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The (transformer) bike in 2 different configurations.

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Pedro-bot

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Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 07:20:44 AM
If my memory recalls correctly, OneSpeedPaul fitted a 900S air cooled motor in a 916 frame with a single sided swing arm.

On a shoe string budget.  ;D

I was there.  ;)

Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 07:20:44 AM
A stock 999 Swing arm will NOT fit a stock M1000DS motor without case or swing arm modifications (or both) .

Paul's bike used a non-narrow engine case (900ss motor) and fitted it to a sbk frame and swing arm (916). This was done by shimming the engine case.

Really my point was that you can in fact make a sbk swing arm work with a non-narrow engine case (Monster or SS motor).
Although the example of Paul's bike is not identical, conceptually it is.

Apples + apples = more apples  :P

Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 08:34:19 AM
The (transformer) bike in 2 different configurations.



I like the non-monster look better.
But both look great.

Any reason you didn't go with the box style swing arm from the 999?

Thanks for sharing your work.  [thumbsup]
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Moto Motivo

 
QuoteReally my point was that you can in fact make a sbk swing arm work with a non-narrow engine case (Monster or SS motor).
Although the example of Paul's bike is not identical, conceptually it is.

In Paul's own words: "after figuring out the stud spacing on my own many moons ago, i ended up getting a nice used 900SS motor and machined the cases at the swingarm pivot to match the SBK cases, and *most* everything else fell into place."  ;)   http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/16513-motor-swap-time-2.html

I also prefer the looks of the 999 tank and Radical seat, but like the more relaxed riding position of the Monster.  Doing a bike this way is providing me with 2 bikes in one and having a Monster with the adjustability of all the 999 configurations.  Hell, it is also fun doing something like this.

The swing arm was "free"  [thumbsup]  Left over from a previous project.


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Pedro-bot

Quote from: Moto Motivo on December 01, 2012, 11:03:32 AM

In Paul's own words: "after figuring out the stud spacing on my own many moons ago, i ended up getting a nice used 900SS motor and machined the cases at the swingarm pivot to match the SBK cases, and *most* everything else fell into place."  ;)   http://www.ducati.ms/forums/57-supersport/16513-motor-swap-time-2.html

I also prefer the looks of the 999 tank and Radical seat, but like the more relaxed riding position of the Monster.  Doing a bike this way is providing me with 2 bikes in one and having a Monster with the adjustability of all the 999 configurations.  Hell, it is also fun doing something like this.

The swing arm was "free"  [thumbsup]  Left over from a previous project.




So what you're saying is a monster engine won't work with a sbk swingarm.
Ha!!
I stand corrected.
Paul was a good buddy and I forgot he switched cases.
The devil is in fact in the details.

I had an '04 749s with the cast style swingarm such as yours, always preferred the look of the forged box style.

Was just curious.
Free is good.
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