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Good deal or no??

Started by ruffrider, December 16, 2012, 05:21:53 PM

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ruffrider

Hey guys. I'm looking at buying this duc that I've been interested in for a while. It's a 1994 M900. It has 24000 miles but is super clean. He did a s4r single sided swingarm conversion on it and put newer style wheels on it too. It has high compression pistons and twin mikunis with pod filters. It has a newer style seat and real cowl, tail chopped, carbon fiber belt covers, twin halo lights, smoked led tail light, custom dual exhaust and red paint with white middle stripe. Is $3000 too much for this bike? Let me know what you think. Thanks!!

ducpainter

IMO it all depends on the quality of the swingarm conversion. If it was done well, and the bike is in good order then the 3K isn't outlandish.

You can buy a much newer bike with about equal hp but less torque for close to the same money...like an S2R/M 800.

I really like the way a 900 pulls over the smaller motors.

Sounds to me like the bike has already bitten you and you're going to buy it anyway.  ;D

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Howie

As ducpainter pointed out the awing arm conversion is the biggie.  Is it a Febur kit for the Monster (pretty much bolt on) or a swing arm from a super bike which requires a bit of machine work and ingenuity?  Either way, I would find someone good to check over the conversion.

ruffrider

Thanks guys. And ya. I am already atached to to this bike... And just from seeing pictures. Ya I was a little worried about the conversion. He told me the swingarm bolted up but the shock bracket on top he had to add from another bike. He added two extra gussets as well. I won't know til I see it in person I guess. How is the 900 motor though? Good power? Easy to work on? Carbs reliable and easy to tune/adjust if needed?

ducpainter

The 900 motor is a solid performer. It's even better with high comp pistons. That said they were only about 72 ish horsepower in stock configuration. The high comps improve that considerably and is probably the biggest gain to be had. The thing about the 900, and most long stroke Ducs is the torque. Over 4K...you open the throttle and go...until 8K and it's out of breath.

The stock carbs are OK. They can be jetted with commercial kits available, or replaced with Keihins. That's a 1K mod.

The modification he did to the top linkage is something you should look at closely. If he changed the geometry you might have trouble with rear suspension tuning or shock availability.
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ruffrider

Thanks for all that info. I need all I can get. I had a 07 zx6r and sold it three years ago and miss riding so bad. The raw nakedness of the monster is what made me want to get another bike. I will have to make a list of stuff to check when I go look at it though. And thanks, I never thought about the geometry aspect and the effect it might have. I will defineatley look into that.

hbliam

As one who has modified my bikes, I'd pass on that one. Every modification makes the bike less reliable unless executed properly. You have no idea who/how/where any of that stuff was done. Add to that the type of modifications done and it's likely the owner or previous owners ran that bike hard. Takes DP's advice and find a similar valued newer bike with little to no modifications. Then do your own.

herm

Quote from: hbliam on December 17, 2012, 12:29:15 AM
As one who has modified my bikes, I'd pass on that one. Every modification makes the bike less reliable unless executed properly. You have no idea who/how/where any of that stuff was done. Add to that the type of modifications done and it's likely the owner or previous owners ran that bike hard. Takes DP's advice and find a similar valued newer bike with little to no modifications. Then do your own.

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ruffrider

I should learn not to get my mind set on toys before even looking at them in person.  :-\ But thanks, that is probably the smartest choice. Do you think it's even worth looking at to see if it really is a lemon or cherry, then try to get him down to like $2700? Or just pass all together?

Howie

The problem is more the quality and engineering, less the price.  If the work is not good $300 won't cover the problems.

hbliam

Quote from: ruffrider on December 17, 2012, 09:21:23 AM
I should learn not to get my mind set on toys before even looking at them in person.  :-\ But thanks, that is probably the smartest choice. Do you think it's even worth looking at to see if it really is a lemon or cherry, then try to get him down to like $2700? Or just pass all together?

Asked and answered.  :)

ruffrider

Thanks guys. Now back to the search for the right project

hbliam

Quote from: ruffrider on December 17, 2012, 11:59:56 AM
Thanks guys. Now back to the search for the right project

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ruffrider

How do I attach photos so you guys can see the bike. I have a couple close ups of the rear end to maybe give you guys a better idea of how clean this bike is and why it's so difficult to forget about...  ;D