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ducpainter

Quote from: Travman on December 17, 2012, 11:25:57 AM
Do you know the builder or is that just a figure of speech?
I do know him.

I painted the bike in the second photo that DucNaked posted and 8 or 9 others.

We're no longer affiliated.
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Howie

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Quote from: ducpainter on December 17, 2012, 07:12:19 AM
Knowing the builder, he probably just thought it looked better that way.


Another Walt Segl bike?

ducatiz

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Quote from: junior varsity on December 17, 2012, 06:47:43 AM
why mount shock upside down and have gas reservoir have to move up and down?  

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Travman

Quote from: ducpainter on December 17, 2012, 11:28:20 AM
I do know him.

I painted the bike in the second photo that DucNaked posted and 8 or 9 others.

We're no longer affiliated.
You should do more bragging. Don't be humble here. We all loved that bike when it came out.  [bacon]  [thumbsup]

ducpainter

Quote from: Travman on December 17, 2012, 02:05:59 PM
You should do more bragging. Don't be humble here. We all loved that bike when it came out.  [bacon]  [thumbsup]
It was fun working with him. I got to think and work outside the box...and paint more colors than red, yellow, and dark. ;)

He does a lot of Harleys too. Mostly bobber style. He only did two Ducs in the 2 or so years we collaborated on 10 bikes.

Things just didn't work out.
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Travman

Quote from: ducpainter on December 17, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
It was fun working with him. I got to think and work outside the box...and paint more colors than red, yellow, and dark. ;)

He does a lot of Harleys too. Mostly bobber style. He only did two Ducs in the 2 or so years we collaborated on 10 bikes.

Things just didn't work out.
That is one of the coolest bikes ever made and the paint is a big part of that.


Did you paint either of these two bike? 


ducpainter

I painted the one in the middle...#397...

the number got changed because it turned out to be the wrong 'race number' for the owner.

We changed it to 757 after the bike got crashed. ;D
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brad black

Quote from: junior varsity on December 17, 2012, 06:47:43 AM
why mount shock upside down and have gas reservoir have to move up and down? 

some shocks with reservoirs are built to sit a certain way.  if you invert them they don't work.

the old marzocchi strada with a res had them at the bottom.
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Back in the day, prior to reservoir shocks, twin-tube shocks were all there was.
Those had a small volume of air between the inner and outer tube.
Much like how our front forks are.
Inverting them allowed the air into the inner tube, where all of the damping was done.
So the shock performance would go from unspectacular to totally hopeless.

Even when reservoirs, and later, gas-pressurized pistons were added, the body-down orientation remained, as that's how folks expected them to look.
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junior varsity

Quote from: brad black on December 17, 2012, 05:16:03 PM
some shocks with reservoirs are built to sit a certain way.  if you invert them they don't work.

the old marzocchi strada with a res had them at the bottom.

Quote from: Speeddog on December 17, 2012, 07:00:50 PM
Back in the day, prior to reservoir shocks, twin-tube shocks were all there was.
Those had a small volume of air between the inner and outer tube.
Much like how our front forks are.
Inverting them allowed the air into the inner tube, where all of the damping was done.
So the shock performance would go from unspectacular to totally hopeless.

Even when reservoirs, and later, gas-pressurized pistons were added, the body-down orientation remained, as that's how folks expected them to look.


and if you put the reservoir (the significantly heavier end) down there by the swingarm, it would move up and down with the swingarm as the shock worked ... that increases the mass that has to be handled by the suspension... its kind of like doing the opposite of reducing unsprung weight, it seems.

ducatiz

Quote from: junior varsity on December 18, 2012, 08:12:20 AM

and if you put the reservoir (the significantly heavier end) down there by the swingarm, it would move up and down with the swingarm as the shock worked ... that increases the mass that has to be handled by the suspension... its kind of like doing the opposite of reducing unsprung weight, it seems.

Yes but the old shocks were oil/gas.  The res had to be at the bottom.  They don't weight too much.
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Travman


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What is that square fried egg on the front?
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Nice Scrambler.
The tank and pipes make it for sure.
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Fergus

I like how the tank and seat look. Are there any pics of the structure underneath them? Know of any other bikes with good implementation of this? This is having the bottoms of the seat and tank on the same plane, giving a better view of the vertical cylinder's valve cover...