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Started by 1.21GW, May 11, 2013, 08:28:42 PM

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Spidey

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 20, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
Why the leg hanging off during corner braking?  Searched DMF but couldn't find discussion of it.  My gut is that it makes things less stable.  Clearly, I'm wrong.

What derby said.  Originally, it started when riders would take their foot off the peg--or it would come off--under hard braking, I think it order to shift.  Though he was not the person to originate the leg off, once Rossi started doing it a bunch, then everyone followed suit.

An added benefit is that sometime riders will hang it off extra wide to prevent someone from passing.   Rossi and SuperSic (RIP) did that a bunch.  IIRC, Crutchlow (and maybe Dovi) does it a bunch as well.
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Spidey

We should retitle this thread. 
Occasionally AFM #702  My stuff:  The M1000SS, a mashed r6, Vino 125, the Blonde, some rugrats, yuppie cage, child molester van, bourbon.

1.21GW

Quote from: derby on May 20, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
riders seem to think they have "more feel" under heavy braking.

"Feel"?  I figure you mean the nebulous meaning of "feel" as in musician feeling the beat or a QB's feel on his throws.  Iinteresting that a hanging leg can affect that.  Anyone here done this (Triple J #98?) and can ellaborate on feel?


Quote from: Spidey on May 20, 2013, 10:21:09 AM
We should retitle this thread. 

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Jester

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 20, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
"Feel"?  I figure you mean the nebulous meaning of "feel" as in musician feeling the beat or a QB's feel on his throws.  Iinteresting that a hanging leg can affect that.  Anyone here done this (Triple J #98?) and can ellaborate on feel?


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Triple J

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Quote from: 1.21GW on May 20, 2013, 11:17:38 AM
Anyone here done this (Triple J #98?) and can ellaborate on feel?

I've thought about trying it, but honestly, I have more than enough crap to worry about on corner entry now without also messing with my leg!  [laugh] I am nowhere near the speed where dangling a leg will make a bit of difference! None of the fast guys in our club do it either...yet.

I do think there might be something to it though...when the fastest riders in the world adopt something new, then it shouldn't be dismissed IMO. Even Bayliss used to do it...although to much less an extent than now.

I have drug my elbow though...I was crashing...but I drug it!  ;D

Spidey

I've tried to dangle my leg a coupla times at the track just to see what it does.  I couldn't even get comfortable enough with it to notice any effect, good or bad. In club racing, dangling a leg seems like a good recipe for either a crash or a dismemberment courtesy of a gixxer piloted by a Marquez-wanna-be. 
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1.21GW

Quote from: Jester on May 20, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
I vote MotoGP for Dummies

I appreciate that you used 'dummies' and not 'idiots'.  [cheeky]
"I doubt I'm her type---I'm sure she's used to the finer things.  I'm usually broke. I'm kinda sloppy…"

ZLTFUL

I dangle my leg like that...just before I kick a stick into someone else's spokes!  [evil]
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Quote from: 1.21GW on May 20, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
[yeah, i know the picture is not from LM or even this season.]

and it makes me sad.
Like this is the racing, no?

1.21GW

"I doubt I'm her type---I'm sure she's used to the finer things.  I'm usually broke. I'm kinda sloppy…"

1.21GW

Good article below comparing Yamaha to Honda re: Lorenzo's walk-away victories this year:

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/honda-vs-yamaha-handling-horsepower-motogp/

Most of you probably already get all this, but it was very educational for me.
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1.21GW

I'm learning that maybe I should stop clicking on your video links, kopfjäger.  [bang]
"I doubt I'm her type---I'm sure she's used to the finer things.  I'm usually broke. I'm kinda sloppy…"

kopfjäger

Quote from: 1.21GW on June 22, 2013, 08:55:25 PM
I'm learning that maybe I should stop clicking on your video links, kopfjäger.  [bang]

It's part of racing. Men have been killed in Moto sports since it started.
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Check my NASCAR  and LeMans threads.
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