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If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . .

Started by Monsterlover, August 21, 2013, 07:56:12 AM

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Monsterlover

August 21, 2013, 07:56:12 AM
How many of you would be interested?

The goal would be to provide a complete kit with the button, clips and shims for less than what TPO sells them for.
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stopintime

#1
August 21, 2013, 08:42:28 AM
I already have full floaters, so for me the deal would be to get new buttons AND a new alu carrier, because that's worn worse than the discs.

Never mind me - the point is that full floating brakes are SOOO much better - cooling and brake precision [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

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ducatiz

#2
August 21, 2013, 09:02:34 AM
how much cheaper?   [evil]

And can you make them for the chinese rotors?
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Monsterlover

#3
August 21, 2013, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 09:02:34 AM
how much cheaper?   [evil]

And can you make them for the chinese rotors?

Price depends on qty. Are the chinesium buttons the same size as the Ducati ones?
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ducatiz

#4
August 21, 2013, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 09:22:34 AM
Price depends on qty. Are the chinesium buttons the same size as the Ducati ones?

aha, you ask hard question, grasshopper. 

no idea.  i should look into that.  i have a feeling they are just straight out copies though.
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Skybarney

#5
August 21, 2013, 10:19:10 AM
I would love to convert the fronts on my 2013 Evo.  No clue about fitment though.
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Monsterlover

#6
August 21, 2013, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: Skybarney on August 21, 2013, 10:19:10 AM
I would love to convert the fronts on my 2013 Evo.  No clue about fitment though.

I don't know about the 13 EVO but I'm guessing it's the same as the others.

TPO lists the same part number for every Ducati I checked (and there are a bunch I didn't look at)

Monster 750 (carbureted), '96 - '01
Hypermotard 1100, '08 - '11
Sportclassic Sport 1000, '06 - '09
SuperSport 900 (carbureted), '91 - '98
SuperSport 900 / 900SSie (injected), '99 - '02
Monster 1100, '09
Monster 900ie (fuel Injected), '00 - '02

All the same button.
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Speeddog

#7
August 21, 2013, 12:09:10 PM
I'm in for a 1-disk set (10 pieces).

Likely more, depending on price.

I'd prefer hard ano in black.
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Monsterlover

#8
August 21, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
Hard anodize is a possibility but it's ungodly expensive.  100pc qty is $2.00ea my cost.  If we can't get the qty up enough it will be normal anodize in black (black matches everything)
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ducatiz

#9
August 21, 2013, 07:43:12 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
Hard anodize is a possibility but it's ungodly expensive.  100pc qty is $2.00ea my cost.  If we can't get the qty up enough it will be normal anodize in black (black matches everything)

What about SFL coating?  solid film lubricant?  Seems like free floaters need all the help they can get for surface protection, and regular anodize will probably not stand up to the rubbing
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Monsterlover

#10
August 21, 2013, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 07:43:12 PM
What about SFL coating?  solid film lubricant?  Seems like free floaters need all the help they can get for surface protection, and regular anodize will probably not stand up to the rubbing

I don't know anything about SFL. Might have found an alternate source for the hard anodize. Honestly, I don't think hard anodize will stand up to it either, based on my experience with the tpo button when I pried the e clip off with a little screw driver.
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ducatiz

#11
August 21, 2013, 07:58:16 PM
probably true, they have to be a close fit so there is not any mis-distribution of weight.

sfl is great, you can get piston skirts coated with it as well as lifters or any non precision part that might rub. 

when i built vw drag engines, id get the piston crowns ceramic coated and the skirts sfl coated.  they would last 10x as long
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Monsterlover

#12
August 21, 2013, 08:08:59 PM
Pm incoming
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Howie

#13
August 21, 2013, 08:22:22 PM
I had Alth rotors on my bike, semi floaters, but much lighter springs than the OEM rotors.  One carrier wore badly prematurely, enough that it was a full floater plus.  Buttons were fine.  Same with the rotor on the other side that was still good.   Makes me think hard anodized is good enough.  Better to have button wear than carrier wear anyway, IMO.

ducatiz

#14
August 21, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
Good point Howie.

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