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Started by zooom, October 02, 2013, 10:41:45 AM

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zooom

99 Cagiva Gran Canyon-"FOR SALE", PM for details.
98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T

Monsterlover

"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Steve.In.Atlanta

Holy hell, 200hp from a 700cc motor is insane.
2005 Monster S4R
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Mk3 (project bike)
2001 Monster 900S (stolen)

zooom

Quote from: Steve.In.Atlanta on October 02, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
Holy hell, 200hp from a 700cc motor is insane.

and no traction control and 300lbs package rolling.
99 Cagiva Gran Canyon-"FOR SALE", PM for details.
98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T

Steve.In.Atlanta

Quote from: zooom on October 02, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
and no traction control and 300lbs package rolling.

Disaster waiting for the right buyer.
2005 Monster S4R
1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Mk3 (project bike)
2001 Monster 900S (stolen)

Narflar

Quote from: zooom on October 02, 2013, 11:53:55 AM
and no traction control and 300lbs package rolling.

This should be a MotoGP bike
2012 Ducati Monster 1100 Evo
2008 Honda ST1300
2008 Triumph Speedmaster
2004 Ducati M1000

ChrisK

I believe MotoGP bikes are over 235 hp aren't they? Still a ways to go there.
1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

zach (Slag)

200hp in a 700cc engine = 285hp per liter. Increase displacement and you are there  [Dolph]
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ChrisK

Quote from: zach on October 02, 2013, 02:17:55 PM
200hp in a 700cc engine = 285hp per liter. Increase displacement and you are there  [Dolph]

true! definitely has a lot of potential.
1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

ChrisK

The site the OP linked to says that the bike uses a "Rotron" twin motor to make that 200 hp. Here is Rotron's website:

http://www.rotronuav.com

According to their product line they don't have any motors that make 200 hp or even 100 hp, so it leads you to believe that they special made the motors for the motorcycle application. Maybe they'll special make a larger one to compete in the Moto GP world as you've suggested, who knows!
1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

Dirty Duc

Quote from: ChrisK on October 02, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
The site the OP linked to says that the bike uses a "Rotron" twin motor to make that 200 hp. Here is Rotron's website:

http://www.rotronuav.com

According to their product line they don't have any motors that make 200 hp or even 100 hp, so it leads you to believe that they special made the motors for the motorcycle application. Maybe they'll special make a larger one to compete in the Moto GP world as you've suggested, who knows!

Part of the deal there is "rated HP" in an aviation use is under different requirements.  They've also got a pretty conservative compression ratio on the high output 600.

Rotaries also like playing with port timing more than is useful in an aviation setting.

caperix

Quote from: ChrisK on October 02, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
The site the OP linked to says that the bike uses a "Rotron" twin motor to make that 200 hp. Here is Rotron's website:

http://www.rotronuav.com

According to their product line they don't have any motors that make 200 hp or even 100 hp, so it leads you to believe that they special made the motors for the motorcycle application. Maybe they'll special make a larger one to compete in the Moto GP world as you've suggested, who knows!

I think they would have to go smaller to compete in Moto GP as rotaries are 2 stroke.  So that would be a 500 cc limit if allowed at all.  Very cool bike though, I always liked the rotary Nortans & old Suzukies.

Dirty Duc

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Quote from: caperix on October 03, 2013, 05:08:57 AM
I think they would have to go smaller to compete in Moto GP as rotaries are 2 stroke.  So that would be a 500 cc limit if allowed at all.  Very cool bike though, I always liked the rotary Nortans & old Suzukies.
Nope, they are four stroke.  They just sound mean.

Each face of the rotor counts as if it were a cylinder.  Intake, compression, power, exhaust. 

caperix

Ok, I had always figured that as they fire once per rotation they would be clasified more as a 2 stroke.  [thumbsup]

Dirty Duc

Quote from: caperix on October 03, 2013, 06:47:54 AM
Ok, I had always figured that as they fire once per rotation they would be clasified more as a 2 stroke.  [thumbsup]
Assuming a Wankel triangle rotor, "rotation" counts from the eccentric (equivalent to the crank).  They actually fire three times per rotor rotation.  A two rotor is the equivalent to a v-6 of the same displacement.

http://www.animatedengines.com/wankel.html

The one in the OP sounds like a peripheral port, which will only ever be street legal on a production bike if they do the "limited homologation" that exempts it from noise and emissions laws.

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