they didn't seem to be in a hurry to get him in the meat wagon.

I have to say that I like the way they treat criminals down there.  The guy was stealing somebody's moto, and an off-duty cop jumps out and just shoots.  Doesn't give the criminal a chance, he just shoots.  Then, nobody wastes any time on the shot criminal.  They don't tend to him, they don't give a shit.  I think the video even shows the victim motorcyclist telling off the criminal as he lays on the ground in pain.  That... is awesome.

But I also have to say that I'm glad I don't live in Brazil.

Quote from: Grappa on October 17, 2013, 09:13:35 PM
I have to say that I like the way they treat criminals down there.  The guy was stealing somebody's moto, and an off-duty cop jumps out and just shoots.  Doesn't give the criminal a chance, he just shoots.  Then, nobody wastes any time on the shot criminal.  They don't tend to him, they don't give a shit.  I think the video even shows the victim motorcyclist telling off the criminal as he lays on the ground in pain.  That... is awesome.

But I also have to say that I'm glad I don't live in Brazil.

"criminals" in general? Hopefully you mean violent @$$holes who put other people's lives in jeopardy.

Quote from: mitt on October 17, 2013, 06:17:55 PM
they didn't seem to be in a hurry to get him in the meat wagon.

Why bother spending taxpayer money for fixing up what will end up killed (after likely killing someone else) before the age of 21?

Quote from: HotIce on October 18, 2013, 06:44:09 AM
Why bother spending taxpayer money for fixing up what will end up killed (after likely killing someone else) before the age of 21?

The kid def dug his own grave, but the violent death of a kid is nothing to make blithe comments about.

I thought you said he was a violent a$$hole putting others lives in jeopardy?

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Quote from: hbliam on October 18, 2013, 08:18:37 AM
I thought you said he was a violent a$$hole putting others lives in jeopardy?

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I did say that and I also agreed he dug his own grave. Doesn't mean I'm all stoked about him dying or take issues like that lightly. What part of that isn't clear to you?

The death of another human being should always be mourned.  Even if they were a total douche that knowingly made the choices which got them killed (like bikejacking then pointing a firearm at a police officer), it is still regrettable that they chose that path.

Yes, this guy got what was coming to him.

No, his death should not be celebrated.

I've been bikejacked at gunpoint

that guy is WAY calmer than i was after

Quote from: duc_fan on October 18, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
The death of another human being should always be mourned. 

I don't agree. Some humans have made decisions that prevent me from mourning their deaths. Child rapists, murderous gang members, saddam, bin laden, hitler, dahmer, Richard Ramirez, etc,etc,etc.

Quote from: JEFF_H on October 18, 2013, 12:35:58 PM
I've been bikejacked at gunpoint

that guy is WAY calmer than i was after

SoCal?

Scary!  Can't imagine ever being that situation when a gun is pointed at you.

We can split the celebrations then.
I will leave you guys celebrate the deaths of innocent people these scum bags take, and I will celebrate their instead.
Yes, I will celebrate their deaths, because, although tragic from a human POV, it will likely spare lives of innocent people.
IOW, there is no age to be a criminal.

I didn't say some shouldn't be taken for the greater good.  The aforementioned list of evildoers... yes, the world is a better place without them.

But the fact they were people who went down a very dark path is just sad.  It's sad that some make such heinous life choices that society must put them down for the good of humanity as a whole.

So, I will join in celebrating victories over evil (I celebrated the news of Bin Laden getting the business end of the SEALs).  Just saying the human cost is still lamentable.  Killing is sometimes acceptable and necessary, but it's never the most desirable outcome.  The most desirable outcome is the offending party repenting of their actions and becoming a productive member of society.

Call me an idealistic realist.  There are ideals we should strive for... but I am a realist who recognizes we will never actually get there, and some less-than-desirable actions must be taken for the good of humanity as a whole.

Get caught using a gun doing violence to strangers and get shot.  It is the way it is SUPPOSED to be.  I do not relish dead people.  I do however think some people need to stop wasting my air on the planet as they are simply scum.

In the case of that bike jack I would shoot the guy myself and go have a hamburger afterwards, rare hamburger.....

As they say in Texas some folks just need a killing.....

An armed bandit got shot.  Dead apparently. 

I imagine the risk of getting shot dead is an occupational hazard.... when you're an armed bandit.

Pity anybody dies a violent death, but when you the armed bandit threaten the life of some innocent by poking your gun in their face in order to take what is not yours..... 

And the hazardous nature of your chosen occupation results in your slaying, I simply shrug my shoulders and say "stiff shit".