Quote from: 118811 on April 01, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
On another note...

my buddies 2005 S4R wont start...
Last week it started & ran fine he stopped for gas and it would not restart..acted as if was fllooded.
Finally started after 40 mins.

He says it spins (starter) but wont  fire up.

Q...starter or fuel pump or...?

He plans to take it to the Dealer on Friday

He wanted me to ask you guy's for your opinions!!

Thanks

Or immobilizer.

T

Quote from: Thermite on April 01, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Or immobilizer.

T

If it cranks over it is not the immobilized or the starter.

Quote from: 118811 on April 01, 2014, 09:18:06 PM
Me, this year!!

Thanks anyway guys!  Just early that's all. See ya when I get back.

Thanks for the opinions...guys!

So most likely the fuel pump.
Any guess's on the cost installed by dealer? 

Sta...just did this repair right?
Pricy if I remember 

Quote from: derRoteBaron on April 02, 2014, 07:38:23 AM
If it cranks over it is not the immobilized or the starter.

Mine cranked when I had Immo problems.  YMMV.

After it did start did it have any issues or ran fine?  You said he had stopped for gas.  One trend I did notice when my Immo went south was if I went to a gas station with a bunch of fluorescent lights the chances my bike wouldn't start was much higher.  I did a re-flash so I never knew if it was antenna, gauges, ECU or other wiring problems but based on the fluorescent light factor I always thought it was antenna.

Another thing I noticed was although it cranked but didn't start there wasn't any significant gas fumes.  That threw me off-track for a while thinking it was fuel system problems.

T

update....

I misunderstood my friend.
His S4R does NOT crank over, now.

When he presses the starter button...it just whirls/spins.

Starter sprague clutch.

Quote from: derRtToteBaron on April 03, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Starter sprague clutch.

Thanks DRB,
any idea on cost of repair at the Dealer?

Absolutely no idea. Plus it is only a guess based on what you have said. It could all be different when the bike is in front of the tech.

In case it is the fuel pump...For my fuel pump issue, when you turn on the key, you don't hear the fuel pump working at all.  Normally you can.  I bought a used fuel pump assembly from ebay for 500, deal cost ~1k.  SSD's labor was ~$200.

The S4R actually started on Friday so he drove it down to the Dealer.....they were suppose to start looking at it this morning....but, he heard nothing back from them.

I hope it doesnt turn into a intermittent issue!!

Quote from: 118811 on April 06, 2014, 12:53:41 AM
The S4R actually started on Friday so he drove it down to the Dealer.....they were suppose to start looking at it this morning....but, he heard nothing back from them.

I hope it doesnt turn into a intermittent issue!!

Once again the reports are all over the place.  . This might even be only an old, weak battery that's right on the edge. Doesn't sound like a hard mechanical fault. Enough guessing! 

Quote from: derRoteBaron on April 03, 2014, 01:37:15 PM
Starter sprague clutch.

Right you are DRB!   

$800-$1000 quoted by dealer....2 week wait for part   

Quote from: 118811 on April 10, 2014, 12:03:46 AM
Right you are DRB!   

$800-$1000 quoted by dealer....2 week wait for part   

Always interesting to get these quotes.  Catalog away for future reference. It is a bit of work to get to that. Harder on a liquid cooled engine than the air cooled. If he ever thought about putting on a lightweight flywheel now's the time!

well, SSD called my buddy regarding the sprague clutch..it's on back order.
Dealer said it could be 1-18 month's!!!!!!

Any idea's on other source's?

DRB....my buddy says thanks for the suggestion on the flywheel...hes gonna get the Nichol's
one.