Monster 821 Dark

2014 Monster 821

Monster 821

There's a reason almost all of the official pics are from the right hand side.

Harry Tuttle's nightmare on the left.

Left side pic:

Just looks wrong without the clutch slave . . .

Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 28, 2014, 07:05:07 AM
Just looks wrong without the clutch slave . . .

There are soooo many things wrong with that bike.

Quote from: ducpainter on May 28, 2014, 07:07:25 AM
There are soooo many things wrong with that bike.

Please elaborate... as I'm very interested in this bike and am debating the 820 vs. the 1200. Esthetically the appeal of the appearance is of course subjective and I am a fan of the new look and prefer it to the recent 695, 795 and 1100 models. I perfer the new headlight and tank and turn indicators. Tail is essentially already chopped. I like the fact that it comes with a seat cowl and all the electronics and new display.  I also like the snaking exhaust. The only thing I have to accept is the ugly watercooled elements that clutter up the front end of the bike. Is there an issue with the build, performance, control etc.? The ergonomics and quality of the seat are superior in my opinion after test riding the 1200.

Does the missing clutch slave mean cable instead of hydraulic or is the slave just hidden away somewhere?

JM

Quote from: Duck Off on May 28, 2014, 07:24:41 AM

Please elaborate... as I'm very interested in this bike and am debating the 820 vs. the 1200. Esthetically the appeal of the appearance is of course subjective and I am a fan of the new look and prefer it to the recent 695, 795 and 1100 models. I perfer the new headlight and tank and turn indicators. Tail is essentially already chopped. I like the fact that it comes with a seat cowl and all the electronics and new display.  I also like the snaking exhaust. The only thing I have to accept is the ugly watercooled elements that clutter up the front end of the bike. Is there an issue with the build, performance, control etc.? The ergonomics and quality of the seat are superior in my opinion after test riding the 1200.

I definitely agreed with you. The other issue I see is the swingarm. Nothing some paint wouldn't fix. Obviously I prefer the SSS from the 1200.

Too much going on for my taste was my first thought. But it'll be interesting to see what modders do with them. I'll reserve judgement till I see one in person, some things are always lost in translation.

Does this mean they will have all three colors for the 800?  The 1200 you have to go the S model to get White and no option for black so far.

Quote from: ungeheuer on May 28, 2014, 06:14:28 AM

Harry Tuttle's nightmare on the left.

True.

I like the white with red rims, though.

The New Ducaudi is a horrible bike to look at from the left side.  It is so horrible I even turned down a test ride.  Told the dealer straight up that there was no point in riding something I would never even consider owning.

Glad some people like it though as it would be a shame to see Ducaudi fade away.  Personally I think they are no longer the kind of bikes that interest me.

2014 the year Ducati died to me.  Even going to take a good look at the new Aprillia Caponord

Quote from: the_Journeyman on May 28, 2014, 07:31:26 AM
Does the missing clutch slave mean cable instead of hydraulic or is the slave just hidden away somewhere?

JM

cable and is very easy on the hand

edit:

this bike marks the end of AIR COOLED engines, 696/796 end production on June 30th . . . for good

Quote from: Darkmonster620 on May 28, 2014, 09:16:01 AM
cable and is very easy on the hand

edit:

this bike marks the end of AIR COOLED engines, 696/796 end production on June 30th . . . for good

The scrambler is still rumored to be air cooled.  I understand why they are switching away with more noise & exhaust emision issues to deal with. I will always prefer the simpler looks of the air cooled bikes though.

I have to say that this DSS looks a lot better than the one on the 899 though.

I still havent seen the new monsters in person yet so I'm withholding judgement too.  I wasnt a fan of the look of the SF in print till I saw it in person but loved it when I saw it then.

I'm going to miss the old air cooled bikes but I mean... in the end I think we're all just going to get a choice of better overall bikes in the future.  From all reviews it seems that the new M1200 is pretty awesome and I expect that people will say the same of this.  We've got a metal tank, comfier/adjustable ergos, and they even managed to make the chicken wings look good this time around.  For the current design brief of the monster being a general everyday bike with sporting potential, I'm sure it'll hit the mark.

Sure they are slaughtering sacred cows left and right but hey... it's bbq season and I'm a steak fan haha

That all being said, I still think the SF looks way better and I cant see myself moving to these new monsters with that as an option still.  But choosing between a 796 and this?  I would probably go with this.