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The Man says 'no riding to work??'

Started by NvrSummer, July 23, 2008, 08:35:31 AM

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NvrSummer

Quote from: c_rex on July 23, 2008, 10:40:04 AM
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness should not SHALL NOT be compromised.  You have no contract with them to operate any other kind of vehicle, or more importantly, to operate whatever vehicle you choose to drag your weary carcass to the job site each day?  My friend- wrongful dismissal would be more lucrative for you in the long run than paying the price of losing your rights and granting these fascist, smegheads the power to take those rights without compensation.   Continue to ride your bike, DO start looking for a new employer and be entirely honest with yourself and them when the day comes and they say "No more cycle."   You say, "Hasta la vista, Mr. Doodyhead".

Job interviewer: "Have you ever been fired?"
you: "YEP!"
J.I.: "May I ask why?"
you: "They didn't want me to ride my motorcycle to work."
J.I.:  " :o "
you: " 8)"
J.I.:  "You're hired!"

I love the logic C Rex, but there's too many loopholes.  Trust me, I'd love to tell the egos on a powertrip to f-off, but I don't think it's in my best interest.  One thing I can guarantee, I will NOT stop riding to work.

c_rex

Quote from: NvrSummer on July 23, 2008, 10:48:25 AM
One thing I can guarantee, I will NOT stop riding to work.

... this is all that matters   [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
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Quote from: NvrSummer on July 23, 2008, 10:44:26 AM
I'd love to.  Anyone work for a cool company that's hiring PE's/APM's/Asst Supts???

I  could get you a job up here in about 3 seconds flat. Of course you would have to live in shittiest part of Canada. No mountains, -40 winters, straight roads.

:'(

That's why I'm moving at the end of August.  [thumbsup]
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russelson

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Quote from: gambit688 on July 23, 2008, 09:14:50 AM
Of course here in Colorado the employer has an out for all other laws due to it's "work at will" status.  Because of the protections it affords an employee it also grants a lot of power to the employer, such as the ability to fire you for just about any reason.  I'm to lazy to look up the statutes but it's pretty amazing what it allows for

At-will employment is still be subject to anti-discrimination statutes.  That is, they can fire you because they don't like your job performance, but the cannot fire you if the basis for the termination is your status as a protected class - i.e. race, gender, etc.  The tricky issue becomes proving it.  The employer will, of course, say that the termination was for legitimate performance reasons, with the employee arguing the legitimate reason was just a pretext.  

If you are going to take the employer on, your best bet would be to find an employment lawyer in your area before the sh*t hits the fan and get a quick consulation so you can know the law, as well as the risks and costs you are going to face.  Many lawyers will do an initial consult at no cost. 

There has gotta be a staff attorney at the ACLU who rides.  8)

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Quote from: russelson on July 23, 2008, 11:10:04 AM
If you are going to take the employer on, your best bet would be to find an employment lawyer in your area before the sh*t hits the fan and get a quick consulation so you can know the law, as well as the risks and costs you are going to face.  Many lawyers will do an initial consult at no cost. 

There has gotta be a staff attorney at the ACLU who rides.  8)


If you do this, you'd better win big, because your chances of being meaningfully re-employed are near zero.  Nobody wants to hire an unsuccessful troublemaker.

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NvrSummer

Ha ha, yeah if I'm going to be a troublemaker I better be a successful one!

Truthfully, I'm going to keep riding and lay low until they approach me, if they do.  No reason to stir up shit while I'm gainfully employed!  Very good information in this thread for when they do though.  Russelson, your advice is very helpful, thank you.

Lucazuma, I'm in project management, no unions for me.

I'll let you guys know if the shit hits the fan here, but I think I'm safe.  Just noticed that the guy who warned me also rode in today and parked his Vrod right outside the door next to my Monster, so I assume he has the same attitude as everyone here.

sbrguy

Quote from: NvrSummer on July 23, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
Ha ha, yeah if I'm going to be a troublemaker I better be a successful one!

Truthfully, I'm going to keep riding and lay low until they approach me, if they do.  No reason to stir up shit while I'm gainfully employed!  Very good information in this thread for when they do though.  Russelson, your advice is very helpful, thank you.

Lucazuma, I'm in project management, no unions for me.

I'll let you guys know if the shit hits the fan here, but I think I'm safe.  Just noticed that the guy who warned me also rode in today and parked his Vrod right outside the door next to my Monster, so I assume he has the same attitude as everyone here.

if i had to guess this "rumor" probably deals more with the people with company cars that maybe aren't using them to goto work.  the whole "we pay for it you better use it" thing.  since like you said you don't have a company car yet, they rpobably can't say antyhing, but once you do, i would personally go along with it if they say "we give you this vehicle we want you using it at work and to get to and from work , we pay insurance and gas on it, so use it" then you can say "ok"..  if they are pyaing for gas for teh vehicle then by all means use it to commute to work, its on their dime.

you could always say you ride to work bc you need to save more money, fi they pay you more then you will drive to work.

55Spy

If they do tell you to drive let them know that they will need to pay for the extra Gas $.

Hell if i was one of teh guys with the company car I'd tll them the same thing unless they also have aq company gas card to go with that company car...I don't know how those kinda things work ???

Howie

If there are enough of you ride to work and you stick together they will be between a rock and a hard place. 

NvrSummer

Quote from: sbrguy on July 23, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
if i had to guess this "rumor" probably deals more with the people with company cars that maybe aren't using them to goto work.  the whole "we pay for it you better use it" thing.  since like you said you don't have a company car yet, they rpobably can't say antyhing, but once you do, i would personally go along with it if they say "we give you this vehicle we want you using it at work and to get to and from work , we pay insurance and gas on it, so use it" then you can say "ok"..  if they are pyaing for gas for teh vehicle then by all means use it to commute to work, its on their dime.

you could always say you ride to work bc you need to save more money, fi they pay you more then you will drive to work.

Exactly my point in an earlier post.  I don't care so much now, but when the time comes that I do get a company car, I'm not sure I want to give up my option to ride to work.  Free gas is free gas, but I love to ride the bike.

Screw it, what kind of corporate pussy have I turned into?  Live to ride and ride to live, right?!?

Alex

Aside from the possibility of driving a company car, this seems unlikely to be an issue. It's just too crazy sounding to be realistic.  ;D

I just can't imagine any manager anywhere trying to tell me what to do outside of work. Just find a polite way to say "your authority over me doesn't extend outside of when I'm on the clock," and there is no reasonable way they can respond except for "oh ya, of course."
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lucazuma

Quote from: NvrSummer on July 23, 2008, 12:43:37 PM

Lucazuma, I'm in project management, no unions for me.


...hmmm...well then found one :)

or wait untill they fire you and than move to Cali...ill see what i can do for ya out here...im an architect 8)