Quote from: Speeddog on July 01, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
Pfft.
There's folks here that ride KTMs.
Those are ugly on both sides, as well as front and back.

Quote from: Speeddog on July 01, 2014, 01:19:34 PM
Pfft.
There's folks here that ride KTMs.
Those are ugly on both sides, as well as front and back.

Well, I have to agree with most here. I'm sure the bike performs well, but asthetically, it's horrible from the left side. As someone else said, about the only thing I do like about it is the exhaust. Other than that.....

I'll be keeping my bike for quite some time. IMO, I have the best looking Monster Ducati has ever made...

I took another look at the 1200S yesterday and about the only thing that excites me about the bike is the full Ohlins setup.  The view from the right rear is actually kinda sweet.

There is nothing that could get me to buy one of the new Monsters though as it just is a mess of a left side.  Maybe I will get lucky and pick up some Ohlins tubes for my bike sometime.

Quote from: Skybarney on July 03, 2014, 09:16:02 AM
I took another look at the 1200S yesterday and about the only thing that excites me about the bike is the full Ohlins setup.  The view from the right rear is actually kinda sweet.

There is nothing that could get me to buy one of the new Monsters though as it just is a mess of a left side.  Maybe I will get lucky and pick up some Ohlins tubes for my bike sometime.

Would you buy any gen2 Monster?

Quote from: duccarlos on July 03, 2014, 10:37:23 AM
Would you buy any gen2 Monster?

He rides an 1100s...

Yup I have a 2013.  I would have preferred a metal tank but all in all I really like the looks of the bike.  It is still pretty light and pretty simple in comparison.  I would not toss 140hp out of bed but she is so ugly I would not perform well anyway 

Quote from: Skybarney on July 03, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
Yup I have a 2013.  I would have preferred a metal tank but all in all I really like the looks of the bike.  It is still pretty light and pretty simple in comparison.  I would not toss 140hp out of bed but she is so ugly I would not perform well anyway 

Haha, I'm just not seeing how this bike looks ugly from either side. It's a naked water cooled bike without a full frame. There will be hoses visible no matter what. Ducati guys really hate change don't they!

I saw a new 1200 today at lunch. Honestly, I didn't notice the plumbing. What I did notice was the weird tank shape, which is very bulbous on both sides and flat in the center. Weird...not hideous or anything, just odd.

Quote from: mtb on July 03, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
Haha, I'm just not seeing how this bike looks ugly from either side. It's a naked water cooled bike without a full frame. There will be hoses visible no matter what. Ducati guys really hate change don't they!

If I hated change I would still be riding my Kawi triple!  Personally part of what attracted me to the Monster is it's super clean looks.  In my mind (a tiny place) a naked bike should be simple and naked. Ducati did not accomplish that with the water cooled 2014's.  So while the bike is still ice (and powerful) it does not have the same eye appeal to me as the older ones.

To be honest if I could have purchased a brand new with warranty full framed Duc I would have.  

A Monster was and should be a naked superbike with better ergo's.  I like the new Monsters.  A modern water cooled 4-valve motor with a modern frame and suspension.  Maybe the Scrambler will be a retro bike with an air cooled motor.  Form should follow function on a Ducati.

Quote from: Armor on July 03, 2014, 02:41:06 PM
A Monster was and should be a naked superbike with better ergo's. 

The Monster didn't start out as a naked SBK. It was basically just a sporty standard.

 I remember it as being a stripped down 851....

Quote from: SpikeC on July 03, 2014, 05:48:29 PM
I remember it as being a stripped down 851....

...with a 2V motor.

The only thing the original Monster shared with an 851 was the very basic frame design.

The gusseting was different...the subframe was integral rather than a bolt on.

No way was a Monster ever an SBK.

Umm ... this was one of Galluzzi's original sketches



... according to the motorcyclist online article here.

He says he got the idea from looking at a naked 851.

But acc to Duc historian Ian Falloon, Ducati had spare 900SS motors that they needed to move, so they shoehorned those into the 851 chassis and that's what we got. Initially.

So the idea originally was for a naked Superbike, IMO. Galluzzi was probably pissed at what they brought out. Until sales took off.