Looking to get one down the track as my wife suggested instead of rebuilding an old E750/E650. Thoughts on backing off the suspension and fitting dual sport tyres (not full dirt duties, but dirt roads and trails) as well as crappy, rough sealed canyon roads. Thoughts on the CCW big fuel tank and pods kit? Thoughts on any other issues? It would be the bike I throw in the back of the pick-up and take as a holiday runabout exploring forests, beaches, canyons, etc but on good dirt/bad sealed tourist/access roads.

They are great bikes and the CCW tank gave me over 200 miles of range.

it's a road bike.

get an off road bike.

Na, I'll do alot of road riding on shitty back roads with it too.  I also want the grunt for two up sightseeing with the option of dirt roads. I cant see it as being any worse than the big beemer adventure bikes once it has dual sport tyres and suspension sett up. Gotta be better than the fat adventure tourers on the dirt.

Quote from: koko64 on September 21, 2014, 02:30:45 AM
Na, I'll do alot of road riding on shitty back roads with it too.  I also want the grunt for two up sightseeing with the option of dirt roads. I cant see it as being any worse than the big beemer adventure bikes once it has dual sport tyres and suspension sett up. Gotta be better than the fat adventure tourers on the dirt.

What suspension mids are you thinking of?

Maybe a bit more compliance for rough roads. How do you find it?

 Talk to a suspension guy. Lighter oil and springs spring to mind.............

I've not had my hands on many Hypers, but I recall they're pretty softly sprung on the front already.
The forks seem to be a hastily shortened set of offroad forks.
Given the amount of travel and space available for the spring, it's very difficult to fit a stiffer spring.
Bigger wire, and the stacked-solid height is too long.
Fewer coils, and the stress is too high for economical material.

So the front's pretty soft already, cool. The suspension travel appears longer than a Monster by a fair margin.

The SP appears to have longer suspension again which could be good, but otoh I'm a shortass at 5'8", so the base model could be the go. Here am I dreaming, when the bike is a few years off.

Think about wheels too if they have cast alloys they won't take the same punishment that a set of dual purpose spoked forged alloys will! Even a rough sealed road can put an end to an alloy! At a minimum you might have to run tubes.

I'd just as easily get a set of spoked wheels with dual sport tyres and swap them when needed. Wifes giving me a big $$ budget so why not? SSS wheel changes are peachy.

A reasonably priced dirt-worthy spoked rear for the Hyper's SSS?  Only spoked wheel I know of to do the job is the sexy (but exxy) Kineo.

I too played with the idea of building a dirty Hyper...

this being the inspiration


And while I still occasionally revisit the thought....  I pretty much gave the idea away as too much work, costing too much money for too little gain.  Other than just to show it could be done.  I got as far as working out that a Multi 620 DSS would fit (I think thats what I got as far as  ) allowing a more available spoked rear wheel.  But it's gonna need different (longer) forks if you're gonna put a 21" or even a compromise 19" wheel up front.  And longer forks mean rear-end has to come up too.... the whole geometry thing then becomes an issue.  I've had some experience with this game when I fitted RMZ450 forks to the DR.  The rear end took a lot of work to get right... and all cost much too much.  The end result is great... but its not a course of action a sane person would choose to take.

My advice?  You dont wanna hear it, I know....

Buy a lightly used BMW F800GS or a Triumph 800XC.

Or if you're intent on the Hyper... buy a repairable write-off as the basis.  Coz its gonna cost a bucket load by the time you're done.

I can just run dual sport tyres in the 17" size like some of the fatty boomba dual sport bikes and back off the suspension a bit (maybe). It aint for serious dirt, but holiday touring and occasional dirt roads.

Which fatty boomba DS bikes have 17" fronts?

Does anybody even make a 17" DS front tyre?