Quote from: McKraut on July 20, 2008, 09:57:59 PM
who is, really?

Quote from: newslacker on July 17, 2008, 10:40:33 AM
I'm too afraid to call them back.

"There is nothing to fear, except fear itself", Kermit the Frog.

Quote from: hiero on July 21, 2008, 10:53:02 AM

yeah...that's actually very hard to argue.  though there are quite a few other hero types in this little LSD group...

Quote from: McKraut on July 24, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
yeah...that's actually very hard to argue.  though there are quite a few other hero types in this little LSD group...

  I was thinking more along the name rather than the actual abilities and worthiness of the title...

Quote from: hiero on July 24, 2008, 10:12:17 PM
  I was thinking more along the name rather than the actual abilities and worthiness of the title...

dude, it's okay to acknowledge "you're the man"

It's fixed!

In the end, it was an extreme lean condition that led to that overheating. It had nothing to do with the cooling system... I was so very wrong (I need to stick to computer crap). Jeff said the fuel filter was "heavier than any I think I have ever seen." On top of the fuel filter replacement, there were some plugs missing from the canister-ectomy on the air intake side, misrouted fuel lines, and the front belt was "so tight it could have snapped." I don't know why Jeff was looking at the belts, but it's a good thing that he did.

Thanks go to Jeff for taking this Friday afternoon and early evening to sort out all these issues, and Scott for seeing this through and prioritizing the service after some miscommunication. They also apologized several times for the backlog, which seems to be around 3 weeks.

What happened was due in part to my cost cutting efforts. I took the bike in to the west side Euro dealer for the 12/15k service (I still don't know which schedule my bike is on) because they were cheaper, and just did an oil change for the 6000/7500 interval. Historically I have found their service department lackluster and this case was no different. I have found them less than ideal for even routine maintenance as the additional expense of sorting out this overheating issue ($325) shows that they aren't doing even an adequate job. The fuel filter was not checked, belts were tightened incorrectly, and it was running very lean.

Fortunately I have come away with a running motorcycle...  [moto]

Sounds very similar to Cory's poor running S4RS. Wasn't overheating, just was running worse as miles rolled on. Clogged fuel filter. Had nothing to do with the ECU or tuning. Just good old fashioned shitty gas. Cory said he thought it went back to a questionable fill up on the last Hill Country run, Running low on fuel and HAD to gas up at an ancient station with above ground, elevated fuel tanks.

It's nice getting screwed up stuff taken care of and get confidence in your ride. Hope it's all good now.

Quote from: fastwin on July 26, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
Sounds very similar to Cory's poor running S4RS. Wasn't overheating, just was running worse as miles rolled on. Clogged fuel filter. Had nothing to do with the ECU or tuning. Just good old fashioned shitty gas. Cory said he thought it went back to a questionable fill up on the last Hill Country run, Running low on fuel and HAD to gas up at an ancient station with above ground, elevated fuel tanks.

I wish I could trace this back to a questionable fill but alas, I've never used anything less than 91 octane in it. I do frequent this one particular RaceTrac more than any other station because it's cheap and on the way to work... have been going to the same one for 8 months straight. Don't they have some kind of warranty for bad gas?

Wow.  Glad that you got your bike fixed Patrick.  I wonder if there could be a defect in the fuel filter on the S4RS or there was a bad batch made.

Swanny

Quote from: newslacker on July 26, 2008, 02:16:11 PM
there were some plugs missing from the canister-ectomy on the air intake side,

misrouted fuel lines, and the front belt was "so tight it could have snapped."

I took the bike in to the west side Euro dealer for the 12/15k service (I still don't know which schedule my bike is on) because they were cheaper, and just did an oil change for the 6000/7500 interval. Historically I have found their service department lackluster and this case was no different. I have found them less than ideal for even routine maintenance as the additional expense of sorting out this overheating issue ($325) shows that they aren't doing even an adequate job. The fuel filter was not checked, belts were tightened incorrectly, and it was running very lean.

Glad she's running like she should, Patrick.    [moto]

So, did the other dealer do the canister-ectomy and mis-route the fuel lines? Which plugs were missing? 

I hate to hear that the problems continue for you with service there. I am about to need my 7k and was trying to decide where to go--for the same reason you cite--cost, and I was also thinking wait time. After reading this, I may have decided. 

Quote from: newslacker on July 26, 2008, 03:06:56 PM
I wish I could trace this back to a questionable fill but alas, I've never used anything less than 91 octane in it. I do frequent this one particular RaceTrac more than any other station because it's cheap and on the way to work... have been going to the same one for 8 months straight. Don't they have some kind of warranty for bad gas?

i think racetrac warrantees their gas, for whatever that might be worth.

Hate to be a buzzkill but good freaking luck trying to get them to pay your AMS service bill. Not that I have any knowledge of racetrac's fuel guarantee but the cynic in me makes me think it's a total BS advertising gimic. I can't imagine the ocean of legal crap you'd have to wade through to prove that their fuel caused the filter problem. Guess I spent too many damn years around attorneys and judges. But it did make me a realist. Just glad your scooter is better and it wasn't anything more costly.  

Glad to hear you got this sorted out for you. 

Good god, if you had snapped the belt or melted a piston...   
GLAD it didn't come down to THAT. 
Sometimes it can be hard to talk myself into paying a little extra for "the good stuff"
But then I get to thinking...
"if I save $50 on a tire and it's not quite good enough what will THAT cost me"
"if I take it to a cheap mechanic who doesn't catch something what will THAT cost me"
Etc..... 

VERY HAPPY for you!!!   

I was kidding about the warrantee bit at RaceTrac, I know, and they know, that pursing any claim is not worth the cost in money or time. I'm just glad that it's all sorted so I can ride again.

...

I typically go after the good stuff, I bought Ducati for a reason... I wanted an S4R for 2 years before I bought this one, and it has been all that I hoped it would be. However, when faced with $1000 per 7500 mile service fees... I have to ponder my financial sensibilities.