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WSBK World Championship Shootout

Started by ducpainter, November 03, 2014, 03:04:49 AM

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ducpainter

#15
November 10, 2014, 03:52:31 AM
I'm pretty sure the results would have been the same except Guintoli would have had a bigger points lead at the end of the championship.
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MadDuck

#16
November 10, 2014, 08:47:06 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 10, 2014, 03:52:31 AM
I'm pretty sure the results would have been the same except Guintoli would have had a bigger points lead at the end of the championship.

Then justice is served.  As much as I like Sykes ( and a lot of the other riders too ) I think you need to win your championship fair & square. No gifting allowed.
No modification goes unpunished. Memento mori.  Good people drink good beer.  Things happen pretty fast at high speeds.

It's all up to your will level, your thrill level and your skill level.  Everything else is just fluff.

Speeddog

#17
November 18, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
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Triple J

#18
November 18, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
The Rea - Sykes competition could be very entertaining next season. Apparently they're not the best of buddies, and Rea is a very legitimate challenger to be the fastest guy on the team. Go Johnny!  [popcorn]

duccarlos

#19
November 18, 2014, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on November 18, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
Rea's a tick faster than Sykes at Aragon test:
http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2014/Giugliano+tops+the+timesheets+to+end+twoday+Aragon+test+on+a+high

Rea was fast on the old gizzer Fireblade. Imagine what he'll do with a bike that has been updated in the past 4 years!

The Ducs are fast only because they have made no real changes to it? That does not bode well for next year.
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ducpainter

#20
November 18, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Not so sure about that...

If Guigliano can stay upright for an entire race he might not do too bad.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Blackout

#21
November 18, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
Just makes me miss Ben Spies all the more. [bow_down]
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duccarlos

#22
November 19, 2014, 05:37:22 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 18, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
Not so sure about that...

If Guigliano can stay upright for an entire race he might not do too bad.

Guigliano showed that he was fast on it, but the bike could only compete in some very specific circuits. From the comments, it seemed they were going fast only because they didn't have much to test. The bike felt like the same bike, so they knew exactly where the limit was. The other teams were testing a lot of other changes. Something tells me that we will not see much change until Gigi decides to focus on SBK and then we'll see the Duc transformed into an Ape.
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ducpainter

#23
November 19, 2014, 05:49:05 AM
You're assuming the other manufacturers will make huge strides. How many times did Guigliano crash out of a podium spot?

I think Gigi has his hands full with the GP turd.

It'll be a while. ;)
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Triple J

#24
November 19, 2014, 08:45:24 AM
Aren't all the WSBK entries under EVO rules this coming season? If so, the Duc will be competitive. If they don't start that until the season after, then it will be competitive then.

Who knows though...there's a reason why Yamaha and Aprilia (especially) introduced their new 200+hp models...to be competitive in EVO regulations era.

ducpainter

#25
November 19, 2014, 09:23:38 AM
The factory teams were given 'concessions' for one year.

Not sure what they entail, but the rationale is obvious as Triple J states
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Speeddog

#26
November 19, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
More info here:
http://motomatters.com/news/2014/11/18/ducati_and_kawasaki_wrap_up_world_superb.html

Seems Ducati has already done a good bit of groundwork this season, running 2015-ish stuff.
Kawi have apparently not.

I'd wager that since Kawi was in a legitimate fight for Rider and Manufacturer titles, they worked on 2014 spec 'til the end.
Ducati quit beating the dead 2014 horse to get a jump on next season.
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Speeddog

#27
December 03, 2014, 01:17:29 PM
They must not test the riders in the off season, it seems Guintoli is so high he's delusional:

http://tinyurl.com/ksjuljt

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ducpainter

#28
December 03, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on December 03, 2014, 01:17:29 PM
They must not test the riders in the off season, it seems Guintoli is so high he's delusional:

http://tinyurl.com/ksjuljt


You expected he'd tell the truth about the Honda?

Give him half a season for the discontent to set in.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Speeddog

#29
December 03, 2014, 02:40:05 PM
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