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Clutch slave - replace or not?

Started by roggie, March 05, 2015, 09:17:10 PM

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roggie

So my 07 S4rs is in for the 7500 mile service right now and the tech said to think about replacing the stock clutch slave cylinder. I don't seem to have any issues but have read that they can be a problem.
Should I replace it because it's just one of those "matter of time" issues or should I be ok?

I have searched and haven't seen a definitive answer. Any suggestions would be great.

Howie

My OEM slave lasted about 40K.  Usually they fail gradually. 

MotoPsycho

Wasn't there something with the dry clutch bikes throwout bearing? At least I thought it was the dry clutch bikes. Throw out bearing would start to go, and it would cause the rod to spin, causing wear in the cup on the slave cylinder.

Mine lasted 16-18000 mile range but that was from a bad seal leaking fluid. Had I kept that area cleaner, it probably would have lasted longer.
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Howie

Quote from: MotoPsycho on March 05, 2015, 11:47:45 PM
Wasn't there something with the dry clutch bikes throwout bearing? At least I thought it was the dry clutch bikes. Throw out bearing would start to go, and it would cause the rod to spin, causing wear in the cup on the slave cylinder.

Mine lasted 16-18000 mile range but that was from a bad seal leaking fluid. Had I kept that area cleaner, it probably would have lasted longer.

Yes.  The push rod would drill a hole through the slave piston. 

roggie

So if I keep things clean and maintain the fluid I should be ok for another 8-10k?

Howie

No guarantees...maybe more maybe less.

roggie

Quote from: howie on March 06, 2015, 01:17:49 PM
No guarantees...maybe more maybe less.

Good point. So if I were to switch to an after market, i.e. Oberon, Evo etc, would I have a better chance of avoiding part failure?

Duck-Stew

Quote from: roggie on March 06, 2015, 02:04:19 PM
Good point. So if I were to switch to an after market, i.e. Oberon, Evo etc, would I have a better chance of avoiding part failure?

They're not really built differently than the stock one....  The main reason people change them out (besides the 'bling' factor) is the availability of larger piston diameters which result in smoother clutch action and lighter lever pull.

Change out the bearing in the pressure plate, re-bleed the system periodically and every once in a while check the 2x O-rings on the push rod shaft...  And just ride the bike.  [Dolph]
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roggie

Ok cool, thanks Duck Stew!

And everyone else for their input, this place is always the best!

oldndumb

As stated, most are similar since they all rely on Pascal's laws. What could be different would be the materials used, the number of seals, and manufacturing tolerances. What is different between the brands are the warranties, if that matters to someone.

koko64

Yeah, I think Yoyodyne and Oberon have good warranties. Matters to me.
BTW, my old M900 is on her original slave cylinder. ;D
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Howie

AFAIK, failure rates on Yoyodynes are extremely low.  Two seals and hard anodized bore.  http://www.yoyodyneti.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=D002   Again, you may have a lot of life left in the old one.

ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on March 07, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
Yeah, I think Yoyodyne and Oberon have good warranties. Matters to me.
BTW, my old M900 is on her original slave cylinder. ;D
Mine is too...but it's had many new seals.
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koko64

Original seals too.
Im impressed that seal kit is available. I should buy a few. Luck cant hold out forever.
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ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on March 08, 2015, 08:54:31 AM
Original seals too.
Im impressed that seal kit is available. I should buy a few. Luck cant hold out forever.
I think the vet mentioned mine wouldn't take many more.

I'll most likely get the Yoyo when it's time. They've served well in this area.
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