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Started by TitanMonsterS4R, April 17, 2015, 07:49:17 AM

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HotIce

#45
April 19, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
Don't think so, as when you do something like that, it takes nothing to go double down, instead only the follower. Especially upon tire contact.
That, and the fact that with 0.5s (and growing) margin per lap, and 3.5 laps to go, he knew he was going to pass MM.

Raux

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#46
April 19, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Im sure rossi didnt intentionally hit him but did intend to push him off the race line.  Ut marquez was too close for that move.

HotIce

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#47
April 19, 2015, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: Raux on April 19, 2015, 05:29:44 PM
And marquez' comment about the crsh tells me he think rossi got away with it. " I've always said that he's my idol and my reference, so you always learn things from him.
Could that have been "race handling", or "tire handling", or "someday it's better get 2nd place points, than no points"?

Raux

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#48
April 19, 2015, 05:36:41 PM
Eh it was right after the touch comment, so thats why I feel that way. He wasnt talking tire management nor points. He was talking touching.

thought

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#49
April 19, 2015, 05:37:55 PM
Quote from: Raux on April 19, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Im sure rossi didnt intentionally hit him but did intend to push him off the race line.  Ut marquez was too close for that move.

If anything, it looked like MM pushed Rossi off the race line from the first contact and Rossi was just getting it back when the 2nd contact happened.
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Raux

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#50
April 19, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Either way. Raceover. I do think mm will take this as a challenge and come  back with a vengeance. Rossi will end up 2nd and dovi 3rd in the championship.

thought

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#51
April 19, 2015, 05:45:56 PM
Quote from: Raux on April 19, 2015, 05:38:04 PM
Either way. Raceover. I do think mm will take this as a challenge and come  back with a vengeance. Rossi will end up 2nd and dovi 3rd in the championship.

I think that's actually the only chance Rossi/Dovi have when it comes to the championship.  Hoping that MM makes some mistakes due to emotion because I think we all know that in a straight up dogfight MM will come out on top.
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HotIce

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#52
April 19, 2015, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Raux on April 19, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Im sure rossi didnt intentionally hit him but did intend to push him off the race line.  Ut marquez was too close for that move.
You seem to overlook the fact that VR was ahead, and on the race line.
You cannot expect a rider ahead to move off the race line, in order to leave free track for the follower, do you?

kopfjäger

#53
April 19, 2015, 05:49:00 PM
I'm almost positive, I don't give a make the beast with two backs. It's called racing.  :P
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TitanMonsterS4R

#54
April 19, 2015, 05:50:54 PM
FANTASTIC RACE.......All I can say was I kept watching the last two lap over and over again. Incredible racing by all and it was great to see the Ducs in the top 5 again. Who knew the championship would look like this coming into the season?
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The Don

#55
April 19, 2015, 06:04:31 PM
Quote from: 1.21GW on April 19, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Good to hear.  I never pegged him for a sour loser, though he doesn't lose much so I don't have a lot of data to work off of.


Not sure which interview was on BT sports, but on the motoGP video he said "i'd like to thank all the people that wrote me off", which I guess was a dig at ducati.  Buddy, you finished third.  Progress, no doubt, but it's a little early for the screw-all-you-who-doubted me speech.  Ranting never looks good, but it looks less bad when you have a trophy in your arms.


My give-up-seat comment was meant more in jest. I don't hate him (I don't really hate anyone), but I'm not a fan.  My reasons: he seems to take himself so seriously, which I generally am not a fan of as a character trait.  Additionally, his style is more about getting ahead and running off with the race and as such he doesn't seem to have the fight in him that MM and VR do.  I love that VR's two victories this year came with him a row or two back of the pole.  I also love seeing MM race back from last place or wherever in Qatar after that error at the start; and I loved seeing his crazy practice lap at Austin---hell, even the way he booked it full sprint to pick up his bike and rejoin the race after his get off today.  The kid's competitiveness is overt.  Jorge may have it, but you'd never know.  But no doubt he is talented.  Anyway, that's my cause for lack of love for him, can't speak for others.
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1.21GW

#56
April 19, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
Quote from: The Don on April 19, 2015, 06:04:31 PM

Sorry about the blast, I was having a bad day, I should of put the brain into gear before I opened my mouth
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ducpainter

#57
April 19, 2015, 06:28:06 PM
Quote from: duccarlos on April 19, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
You can always count Dovi for a podium, but he will only win a championship, and I'm going to catch some heat for this one, the same way that Nicky won his championship. His consistency will keep him in the points and if he's lucky MM and Vale will take each other out a few times. Unfortunately for him the Rossi of 2006 is not the Rossi of 2015. Vale and MM will eventually pull ahead of the pack leaving the rest fighting for 3rd. And from what we've seen, Lorenzo does not have the fight in him.
...and I need to know what's wrong with getting the most points of all the racers on the grid?

Isn't that how every championship is won?

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Triple J

#58
April 19, 2015, 07:02:07 PM
Break out the tin foil hats!!  [roll]

The MM/Rossi incident was nothing more than hard racing. Rossi had the pace, and MM didn't want to give it up easily and got a little too aggressive. Neither did anything on purpose other than try to win the race.

Pretty good race though. Season starting off well!  [thumbsup]

Dovi keeps getting seconds and he could be in it at the end. There isn't anything wrong with consistency. The question...would a Ducati championship this season need an asterisk next to it?

thought

#59
April 19, 2015, 07:48:48 PM
What I also think about is how competitive Stoner would be if he came back. Last year I would have thought he'd be right up there with them... But looking at how the field has grown and gotten stronger since he left... I'm not sure where he would be placing anymore.

I'd still dearly love to see it though haha
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