Quote from: ducpainter on April 21, 2015, 05:18:54 AM
I can't find where I heard, or read it, but even Marquez has admitted he needs to learn to accept second place sometimes.

Second place is the first loser. I wonder how people described Rossi at 21 years old?

Quote from: 1.21GW on April 20, 2015, 05:00:11 PM
Lorenzo:

The first part is interesting.  He recognizes that he doesn't have the ability to handle spinning tires, or at least not to VR's skill level. 



Quote taken from here: https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/04/20/2015_argentina_motogp_post_race_round_up.html

Same issues he had last year. The tires were not as grippy. From what I understand, Bridgestone decreased the grip to have more even wear. Prior to the change he felt very comfortable going batshit fast on the first lap while the other riders would need at least one lap of confidence before turning it on. Now he knows that he needs to properly warm up the tires and by then he's in traffic.

Quote from: duccarlos on April 21, 2015, 07:08:32 AM
Second place is the first loser. I wonder how people described Rossi at 21 years old?

It could be that MM after this race takes off like he did last year, and leaves the 2nd 80 points behind. But it could also be he might regret to have lost the 20 points here.

Quote from: The Architect on April 21, 2015, 05:08:20 AM

It seems that I'm not the only one that feels that way about MM.  "All or nothing."

And simply, MM has been very lucky.  Of all the paint exchanging he's been involved in, he's only been down in 3 races.  How many riders have not finished a race because of some sort of involvement with MM?

Don't get me wrong he is a great rider, I'm a big fan and Motogp would be very boring without him.

There are quite a few examples of him settling for something other than 1st though...a couple times last year, and a couple times the year before. Including the last race in Valencia that won him the championship...he showed very smart riding in that race in particular, despite JLo trying his best to punt him off.

That doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake this race, as he clearly did. I'm just saying that classifying him as a win it or bin rider is incorrect.

As far as other riders being impacted, I don't think many...especially in MotoGP. Pedrosa last season was a fluke accident. Bautista this year was Bautista's fault...if you haven't watched it from MM's on-board please do (you need the GP subscription).

No argument that he's very aggressive though...sometimes overly so. Just like Rossi.

A pic from the crash.net twitter feed:



The moment Marquez clipped Rossi's rear wheel on the exit of Turn 5. #MotoGP @argmotogp

https://twitter.com/crash_motogp/status/589877424084492288/photo/1

After seeing that pic I don't think there is anyway that crash could have been avoided... MM's bike looks like it's about to slam into VR's rear.

Quote from: thought on April 21, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
After seeing that pic I don't think there is anyway that crash could have been avoided... MM's bike looks like it's about to slam into VR's rear.

Like he did 1s before that pic ...

This is the "Look"....and yes he gave it

2001 L'Alpe-d'Huez - Lance Armstrong gives Jan Ullrich "The Look"

one more for the road

make the beast with two backsin' comedians are everywhere...

 

Haha I have to say that I'm impressed at how fast mm can sprint in race boots too.  No way I could run that fast in mine.

Quote from: 1.21GW on April 20, 2015, 08:04:16 PM
What look?  Do you have access x-ray footage or something that can penetrate a black visor?    All I see is a brief head turn, which is probably normal given that they just made contact coming out of the corner.  We can all speculate (ain't it fun? ), but we'll never get insider their heads or even their visors.

I know there was a look the same way the cager this morning knew I gave him a shitty look when he jumped in/out the carpool lane to pass slower traffic.

How do I know, he knew?  Because he jumped into the carpool again to try and road-rage me.