CRT simply allowed Dorna a way to fight back against the MSA. During the 800 era the manufacturers were basically handed a blank check and they took full advantage. We all know that MotoGP would not have survived without the manufacturers, but behind close doors I'm sure that Dorna was basically telling the MSA that they were moving forward with the rules changes with or without them.

This is actually a very interesting move. The R&D depts hate instability. They must still be going bonkers over the switch to new rubber. I can see Dorna switching rules on them every other month just to make the beast with two backs with their minds.

Did we read the same article? 

I read a rules freeze from 2017 for a period of 5 years.

Quote from: ducpainter on May 11, 2015, 12:50:57 PM
Did we read the same article? 

I read a rules freeze from 2017 for a period of 5 years.

Yep, as long as Dorna doesn't need to bankroll the teams any longer.

They're still making quite a contribution.

Quote from: ducpainter on May 12, 2015, 06:02:14 AM
They're still making quite a contribution.

Yeah, still providing tires and 2Mill Euros for each team. And now the factories need to provide cheaper equipment.

The new rules actually sound really good to me. Fingers crossed!

I don't see the benefit of limiting the grid to 24 riders though, other than to keep Dorna's contribution to a known quantity.

Quote from: Triple J on May 12, 2015, 09:02:51 AM
The new rules actually sound really good to me. Fingers crossed!

I don't see the benefit of limiting the grid to 24 riders though, other than to keep Dorna's contribution to a known quantity.

When (if ever) would you say is too many riders too much congestion on a track?  And at what point is the quality of rider talent severely diluted?

It revolves around the budget. Between the 2 million per team and the tires, Dorna is probably looking at having consistent costs.

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 12, 2015, 09:09:04 AM
When (if ever) would you say is too many riders too much congestion on a track?  And at what point is the quality of rider talent severely diluted?

A lot more than 24...likely in the 40-50 range IMO. Hell, we've had well over 30 on our shitty local tracks!

Quote from: duccarlos on May 12, 2015, 09:17:05 AM
It revolves around the budget. Between the 2 million per team and the tires, Dorna is probably looking at having consistent costs.

I think so as well. 40 teams, and Dorna might run out of money!

They're also covering the travel cost right now. Like any big corporation these days, they're trying to get control of their budget. I'm sure that they would get rid of all aid to the teams if they could. This is just the easiest sale to the MSA.

Sounds like Iannone had a get-off today toward the end of the private test at Mugello. He was diagnosed with a dislocated shoulder, but is still planning on racing at LeMans:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/218744/1/iannone-heads-for-le-mans-despite-dislocated-shoulder.html

Quote from: Triple J on May 12, 2015, 09:26:26 AM
A lot more than 24...likely in the 40-50 range IMO. Hell, we've had well over 30 on our shitty local tracks!

I think so as well. 40 teams, and Dorna might run out of money!

IMO, the key (negative) factor would be dueling race-leaders lapping the pokey riders.  Seem to recall Ben and Mladin having that issue at Barber one year (when AMA races started with 30+ riders, the good-old days). They were wheel-to-wheel for what seemed like several laps, swapping positions, when the leader (I forget who won) got past a marker but the other didn't for several seconds...

Some of the tweets being shown on the motogp site are interesting.....

Stoner congratulating the Ducati team on getting the Andreas near the pointy end....

Miller - shouting out to Nicky, after he loaned him his car, and he left him a banner....
Paddock must be closer than I thought they would be....especially with Nicky being Millers benchmark right now......

Quote from: Needle99 on May 23, 2015, 03:56:36 AM
Some of the tweets being shown on the motogp site are interesting.....

Stoner congratulating the Ducati team on getting the Andreas near the pointy end....

This

I would love to see a reconciliation between Stoner and Ducati. 

http://www.motogp.com/en/facebook_update/2015/05/21/ok-let-s-go-ai29-on-the-road/176238