Quote from: Raux on October 25, 2015, 09:21:02 AM
Wow in that angle in slow mo looks like MM leaned into him.

Well, he's heading off the track, so of course trying to make the turn. Rossi already admitted that he purposely pushed MM out. I do agree that he didn't mean for him to crash, but again, you have to take responsibility for even putting yourself in that position.

Quote from: duccarlos on October 25, 2015, 09:25:38 AM
Well, he's heading off the track, so of course trying to make the turn. Rossi already admitted that he purposely pushed MM out. I do agree that he didn't mean for him to crash, but again, you have to take responsibility for even putting yourself in that position.

We are pretty much completely opposed with our loyalties, duccarlos, but I agree with you on that.

I think if Rossi had not looked back those couple times he wouldn't have "looked" as guilty and there really wouldn't be much of a discussion. On the preceding laps it does look like MM is trying to back VR up though.

Admitting that he did it on purpose made him look guilty, not the "looks". Even if MM was sandbagging to make it more difficult for Rossi, it's not against the rules. So is it worse that he made that move or that MM got so under his skin that Rossi decided that pushing him off the track was a good idea.

OK, now vr says he "might not" attend Valencia,

http://fanpa.ge/qvMsu

I don't think Rossi meant to make him crash. He did though, and it was a shitty move.

Hard to say if MM was messing with him. Not out of the question given Rossi's remarks during the week. If so, he should have just raced his race.

Sucks it happened. Stoner is right...another rider would have been black flagged.

From a VR superfan perspective I'm sorry to say but MM has Rossi's number pegged.  For MM to toy with VR like that and break away when he feels like it I'm sorry to say but VR is in his final years.  I'm for the position that MM was deliberately sand bagging and the choice words VR had for MM after the Phillip Island didn't do wonders for him.  MM pretty much pulled a VR move causing the other rider to make a mistake, it's a dangerous game to play especially at those speeds and I can see how it frustrated Rossi.  Not to  justify his actions but I don't know what I'd do in that situation.

On another note, Pedrosa was untouchable all weekend and crushed the race.  Jlo got caught up early in the race, but made quick work of the riders in front of him.

Poor Dani P. Just a footnote in the MotoGP world

Dick move pure and simple. I think he was probably so frustrated he just snapped but a dick move nonetheless. Especially when you consider this is the same track Simoncelli died. You don't play around on a race track.
As others have said I kept expecting them to black flag Rossi.

I can see Rossi leaving Yamaha after Jarvis' comments. Didnt back him up at all.

Quote from: Raux on October 25, 2015, 10:23:56 AM
I can see Rossi leaving Yamaha after Jarvis' comments. Didnt back him up at all.

Link?

What did I just see?

Thumbs up for Little Dani.

No matter how hard Iannone worked, Ducati wasn't going to let him finish 4th.   

Now I've watched this over and over.  Marc was a total dick.  He let J-lo roll right by and rode out of mind with Rossi.  I was sure he was going to go down and take Rossi with him.  He bumped into Rossi twice before the incident.  There was no need to ride like that.  He's lucky no one was hurt.

What Rossi did was inexcusable.  MM was forced wide.  Bumped into Rossi again.  That's what caused him to fall. Then  Rossi's knee jerk reaction was to stick his leg out. 

How would you expect any of the other riders to react to MM's behavior? 

1 dickhead move + 1dickhead move = tasteless racing

so, this is vr equipment for next race,

Quote from: Raux on October 25, 2015, 10:23:56 AM
I can see Rossi leaving Yamaha after Jarvis' comments. Didnt back him up at all.

He backed him up just fine. Didn't try to justify the move, but said VR's frustration was understandable. Thinks the penalty is harsh considering the circumstances. Said that MM didn't have to crash if he hadn't turned into VR.

Not sure what else he could have said. Very supportive IMO.

It's worth noting that the penalty is still under appeal.