http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/29/open-letter-from-fim-president-vito-ippolito/188680


I think in this whole mess, Lin Jarvis and Dani are the only ones that came out looking like professionals. 

If it rains for the next race, will Rossi catch J-lo?  Will he behave?  Will Biagi be in the stands throwing banana peels at him? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQECs2qWwQ8

Tinfoil hat theory... this was all planned by Dani so now everyone will like him. haha

Quote from: The Architect on October 29, 2015, 11:48:20 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/29/open-letter-from-fim-president-vito-ippolito/188680


I think in this whole mess, Lin Jarvis and Dani are the only ones that came out looking like professionals. 

Hmm, seems to be a common thread here.....
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2001/04/12/open-letter-from-fim-president-francesco-zerbi-to-valentino-rossi-and-max-biaggi/130395

"I want my title now!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZl_rCJtTsg

And before you think it's over...

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/30/valentino-rossi-appeals-fim-stewards-decision/188688

How will Jorghey react to this one?

I watched the Rossi post race interview about the incident. He said watch the helicopter footage. Then I watched the Marquez interview where he clearly states that Rossi kicked him causing him to go down. Then I watched the slow motion helicopter footage. Unless I am mistaken Marquez banged into Rossi twice before he starts to go down and only after the second bang do you see Rossi's leg move and that move looks more like a "get the make the beast with two backs off of me move" than anything else. If I'm missing something let me know but this, to me, makes Marquez look bad and also makes him a douche liar, IMO. I don't think I like him any longer. He's not owning up to anything at all.

Quote from: duccarlos on October 30, 2015, 06:37:00 AM
And before you think it's over...

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/10/30/valentino-rossi-appeals-fim-stewards-decision/188688

How will Jorghey react to this one?

Can't see this going anywhere... the main issue should be that he admitted to pushing MM off the racing line.  If he didn't do that he might have a chance I think the admission of guilt seals the deal.

Quote from: MadDuck on October 30, 2015, 09:47:03 AM
I watched the Rossi post race interview about the incident. He said watch the helicopter footage. Then I watched the Marquez interview where he clearly states that Rossi kicked him causing him to go down. Then I watched the slow motion helicopter footage. Unless I am mistaken Marquez banged into Rossi twice before he starts to go down and only after the second bang do you see Rossi's leg move and that move looks more like a "get the make the beast with two backs off of me move" than anything else. If I'm missing something let me know but this, to me, makes Marquez look bad and also makes him a douche liar, IMO. I don't think I like him any longer. He's not owning up to anything at all.

Keep in mind, they each have their own recollection of the incident, based on their perspective. It isn't necessary lying, just how they remember it. Goes for both of them.

Quote from: thought on October 30, 2015, 10:21:59 AM
Can't see this going anywhere... the main issue should be that he admitted to pushing MM off the racing line.  If he didn't do that he might have a chance I think the admission of guilt seals the deal.

If you take the time to search out the two sets of regs...

if the court deems that the FIM decision can cause 'irreparable harm'...

When deciding whether to award preliminary relief, the President of the Division or the Panel, as the case may be, shall consider whether the relief is necessary to protect the applicant from irreparable harm, the likelihood of success on the merits of the claim, and whether the interests of the Applicant outweigh those of the Respondent(s).

They can decide yes Rossi has to get the three penalty points, but serve them next year because this could be his last chance to win a championship, that being the irreparable harm.

This will be very interesting.

Quote from: MadDuck on October 30, 2015, 09:47:03 AM
I watched the Rossi post race interview about the incident. He said watch the helicopter footage. Then I watched the Marquez interview where he clearly states that Rossi kicked him causing him to go down. Then I watched the slow motion helicopter footage. Unless I am mistaken Marquez banged into Rossi twice before he starts to go down and only after the second bang do you see Rossi's leg move and that move looks more like a "get the make the beast with two backs off of me move" than anything else. If I'm missing something let me know but this, to me, makes Marquez look bad and also makes him a douche liar, IMO. I don't think I like him any longer. He's not owning up to anything at all.

During this whole thing you do not take into consideration that Rossi forces Marquez out wide on purpose? This is the reason he's getting penalized, not because he may or may not have caused MM to crash. If Rossi would not have pulled that move first, this situation would not have occurred regardless of anyone's recollection or intention.

Even if FIM revokes the penalty (I give it no more than 20% chances they will), I think they have a 50/50 chance to the championship.
It would make for it a fsking interesting race, assuming MM would mind his own business this time, and go for the best place he could take.
It would also make for JLo eventual championship, for a real one, instead of a cardboard one 

It would definitely make it more interesting. If Rossi ended up winning the championship, can you imagine the whining that will be coming from that side of the garage? How can you continue calling that a team? The wall would immediately come back up and more likely Jorghey will issue some sort of ultimatum stating that either Rossi goes or he goes. This will have some serious consequences depending how it plays out.

Rossi has had a good season, but he's lucky to even be in it. JLo doesn't get sick and get a bum helmet, and HRC doesn't out think themselves, and he's pulling up 3rd with no chance.

I still think he has a good chance though. MM and Pedro are going to be out for the win...JLo conservative because he won't want to crash it all away. 6th is all it'll take.

I think he will also want to be a more credible champion. Only way for that is win this race making what Rossi does less relevant.
He also knows 6th is possible. I think he will start fast and see what happens.