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Thinking about a trade for MV. Need opinions.

Started by Alexandre, July 28, 2008, 08:44:32 AM

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greenohawk69

MV was also recently purchased by Harley and I would think that would increase the potential number of dealers.  They most likely would have someone at one of the Harley dealers service it for you. 
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factorPlayer

Quote from: greenohawk69 on July 30, 2008, 10:08:57 AM
MV was also recently purchased by Harley and I would think that would increase the potential number of dealers.  They most likely would have someone at one of the Harley dealers service it for you. 

umm yeah don't see that happening.

jesse370

Gotta agree with factor, not a chance in hell you see anything MV in a harley dealer....

They already have a large investment in buell in most dealerships that is hardly paying off for them, putting an even MORE expensive italian brand on the floor next to american iron wouldn't work well.....

I think the MV deal was done soley to get harley more credibility in europe??

They are beautiful bikes for sure, but they just don't have any dealers around
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Alexandre

luckily i live in socal and there are 2 dealerships within easy driving distance.

there is no way harley will have anything MV in dealerships IMHO...

erik822

Harley bought MV for its European dealer network. HD wanted to expand its European sales and the MV dealer network provided a good way to do that. I don't see them diluting their "All American" dealerships with an Italian brand. I'm sure they'll want to keep them separated over here.


Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.

gnostic203

I ride pretty often out here with a guy on a Brutale.  The bike is fast, smokes my S2R1000.  However, I find the riding position incredibly uncomfortable compared to my Ducati and to be honest, his bike always seems broken.  Granted the owner is busy at work these days but every riding day that comes up he has something wrong with the bike.

I like the MV a lot, but more of a lust thing and not a true desire to own thing.  I much prefer my Monster but that is just me.

Mika

#21
uncomfortable issues depend on your height. The Brut seating position is more upright than a Monster, so try for yourself.  Yeah for tall guys it's cramped. The suspension is more taught than a Monster. It ain't no luxo tourer or highway bike due to short gearing. 

mine has never been unreliable in almost 3 years, whereas my Monster had to be towed once in the 1st year.
'05 Ducati S2R 800 - sold
'04 Ducati ST4s ABS Senna - sold
'06 MV Agusta Brutale 910
'08 MV Agusta F4R312

Popeye the Sailor

Quote from: Mika on July 30, 2008, 06:51:26 PM
mine has never been unreliable in almost 3 years, whereas my Monster had to be towed once in the 1st year.

How many miles were put on each in that time?
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

Mika

Quote from: someguy on July 30, 2008, 06:59:48 PM
How many miles were put on each in that time?
4k on the Monster - it was my only bike at the time
6k on the Brut - I split time as I have more than 1x  bike now
'05 Ducati S2R 800 - sold
'04 Ducati ST4s ABS Senna - sold
'06 MV Agusta Brutale 910
'08 MV Agusta F4R312

zvezdah1

Bought a leftover 06 910S year and half ago.
I've had a couple monsters which are fun bikes, but I've got to say, the handling on the brute is incredible. I really didn't like the bike much til I took it to the Carolina mountains, the bike is such a smooth easy cornering bike, just literally falls into the corners. And it's an absolute blast to ride with loads of power AND torque.

The downsides as someone cited. The brakes on the S model suck, tho some mv guys will disagree strongly with that statement, the nissins went away and were replaced with brembos on 07 model year bikes. 90% of my riding experience is with Ducati and Aprilia Twins, the 4 takes a lot of getting used to, and at first was very difficult for me to modulate the throttle smoothly. Throttle is a bit stiff, one of the popular fixes is to remove one of two throttle return springs to ease it a bit. It's a tiny bike and riding position is definately better for sub 6 footers, I'm 6'2" and look like a monkey h**ping a football! But I've ridden it as much as 400 miles or so in a day.

Dealer network not so great, I'm not terribly impressed by Ducati Atlanta Triumph MV Agusta where I bought the bike from and where it's serviced.

A fun bike, the upside is harley purchase erasing the debt and ensuring MV has money for the new 1078 series of brutes etc.

Chris

hillbillypolack

#25
Well, I can offer up some semblance of comparison, after owning an M900, 748, now an S2R, and test riding that very 910 model.

The Brutale just never made me feellike I connected with it when I test rode it.  The seating position was pretty good.  More upright upper body, legs were more akin to a superbike (likely from the fact that the frame, etc. are from their superbike, yes?).  But not uncomfortable. 

The first impression was that the power delivery was very snatchy, immediate, and wanted to rev.  Its short wheelbase amplified this impression.  I have heard that the engine doesn't have a large (if any) flywheel mass.  So, the engine spins up quick.  My right hand needed a lot of discipline just keeping the bike feeling like I could maintain constant speeds when I was in traffic.

I had heard that year (the one I tested) had fueling issues.  This also sounds liek something that can be remedied with a Power Commander or equivalent.  I have also heard that the mileage for the Brutale is in the low 20-somethings.  Which means you're burning through way too much gas (IMO) for a motorcycle.

Opening the bike up, it has an inline four top-end hit.  I didn't get to really whack it, mostly because the bike wasn't mine, and I was on mostly residential streets.  And, I respect the dealership who were nice enough to allow me a test.

That was in September of last year.  They still have that demo bike, which might signal that I was not the only potential customer who felt the bike was "unusual" or not making that connection.

It's a beautiful bike.  From the rear.  That bodywork, seat, and shotgun exhaust are sublime.  The headlight looks like they lost any motivation, and just let the glass sit in the sun for that droopy, melted glass effect.

Since that time, I've also tested the Hypermotard, which felt much more "usable" on the same streets I tested the Brutale.  The power of the HM is in the midrange, where you're needing it.  On the Brutale, you have to keep it turned up and be cautious about when you let the trigger drop.

The S2R 1000 with Termis on it is much more of a usable bike for the riding I do.  I'm no 100+ mph guy, so I tend to favor a balanced, all-around motorcycle package.

That said, "if" I had the extra cash, or won the lottery, I'd probably get one.  It would be the only inline four in the garage, though., so it might be a great third or fourth bike for me.   I don't see it being anything more than an occasional bike, unless you have some great roads to use it.

For MV's future products, I don't honestly see any need to create the 1078 Brutale.  If MV focused on the usability of the (existing) 910, I would have to believe it would become their Monster.  Instead, they decided to move up in displacement, power, and possibly make a bike that's more about bragging rights.  Like a V-Max that can take a corner.  Okay, that was sarcasm, but I think you know what I mean.