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Modular motor, my ass - A tale of two Fords

Started by Dirty Duc, January 21, 2017, 10:44:40 PM

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Dirty Duc

Quote from: Duck-Stew on January 24, 2017, 08:02:14 PM
Why bother a 318? Just slop an LS3 into it & be done with it...
Just go the easy route:

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Quote from: Dirty Duc on January 24, 2017, 08:04:23 PM
Just go the easy route:


Why stop there? Might as well put in a double row radial like this R2800.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-2800_Double_Wasp


77south

Double row?  Why settle for less?  Allow me to suggest the four row, twenty eight cylinder, Pratt and Whitney R-4360 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-4360_Wasp_Major available in turbocharged, super charged, and turbosupercharged configurations.

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Quote from: 77south on January 26, 2017, 02:35:18 PM
Double row?  Why settle for less?  Allow me to suggest the four row, twenty eight cylinder, Pratt and Whitney R-4360 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_R-4360_Wasp_Major available in turbocharged, super charged, and turbosupercharged configurations.

I saw one of those at the Spruce Goose Museum when it was in Long Beach.

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Dirty Duc

So, the week has been spent getting the "special" tool to take apart and swap connectors for the coils... that doesn't work. Back to the soldering iron.

Because the valve covers aren't swapable, and the oil fill is epoxied to the valve cover, the air filter housing doesn't fit. Also, because the 5.4 is a smidge taller, the coolant overflow/reservoir/fill tank hose (probably) doesn't fit. The two engines also have different connectors for the PCV setup.

The EGR, we just moved into place with brute force and a long lever.

We also needed a mix of serpentine pulleys, but I've forgotten which idler came from which engine.

lethe

Quote from: Dirty Duc on February 04, 2017, 07:52:14 PM
So, the week has been spent getting the "special" tool to take apart and swap connectors for the coils... that doesn't work. Back to the soldering iron.

Because the valve covers aren't swapable, and the oil fill is epoxied to the valve cover, the air filter housing doesn't fit. Also, because the 5.4 is a smidge taller, the coolant overflow/reservoir/fill tank hose (probably) doesn't fit. The two engines also have different connectors for the PCV setup.

The EGR, we just moved into place with brute force and a long lever.

We also needed a mix of serpentine pulleys, but I've forgotten which idler came from which engine.
so in other words, a text book straight forward swap?  [laugh]
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Dirty Duc

Quote from: lethe on February 05, 2017, 04:22:27 AM
so in other words, a text book straight forward swap?  [laugh]
Pretty much. At least we didn't have to make the motor mounts...

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Don't forget to swap over the frambis or you could shear off the connipoly pin.
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Dirty Duc

And then the frangibulator will turn into shards of medtatium? Total replacement at that point, I'm sure.

Dirty Duc

And the make the beast with two backser lives.

Last minute swap of oil pressure senders, because the connectors again were not the same.

There are a couple of lurking issues, but it runs well enough to drive it the mile back to it's home. Still needs the exhaust re-jiggered, so it's a little loud at the moment. My decision on that was to take it to an exhaust shop. Its just not worth my time to fight with that BS. The lower radiator hose solution is likely temporary... it is leaking a bit, but not a problem that needs a workshop to solve. Still needs a little trans fluid, again, not a workshop problem.

It runs, drives, and shifts. From my perspective, the job is done. :P

At this point, I'm elevating Ford to Prince of Darkness levels of contempt.

Speeddog

Considering the philosophy that Henry used, one would think that Ford would be all about interchangeability.
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Dirty Duc

Totally tracking on that sentiment. The marketing has far surpassed the engineering and manufacturing technology in Ford's case.

We did re-use the computer, without re-programming it seems to run okay with the 4.6 manifold and injectors.