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koko64

Wow. Beautiful. Maybe I shouldn't sell my Gixxer.
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Speeddog

https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature/895547/1/motogp-electronics-and-acceleration

I'm beginning to think that Yamaha is getting far less out of their IMU than some of the others.
It does explain their struggles, but Zarco's success throws a big spanner into that analysis.

Oh, and Spec IMU from 2019!
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koko64

Great article.

It pays to headhunt the right IT people from automotive industries and universties. I'm pretty sure that Ducati Corse and HRC have very good collaborations in that area and lure the best people. I guess that's a way to get an advantage with the standardised electronics, hire the best people to extract the most from the standardised component. So does having more money to throw at this (to lure the best people)  influence the outcome in a way that circumvents the levelling idea around standardised electronics? Teams will find a way to do it within the limit of the rules.

Does Z's team have an outstanding tech wiz, does the "old" bike have a better mechanical baseline, or is Z just that good? What do you guys reckon?
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ducpainter

Quote from: koko64 on May 10, 2018, 03:43:38 PM
Great article.

It pays to headhunt the right IT people from automotive industries and universties. I'm pretty sure that Ducati Corse and HRC have very good collaborations in that area and lure the best people. I guess that's a way to get an advantage with the standardised electronics, hire the best people to extract the most from the standardised component. So does having more money to throw at this (to lure the best people)  influence the outcome in a way that circumvents the levelling idea around standardised electronics? Teams will find a way to do it within the limit of the rules.

Does Z's team have an outstanding tech wiz, does the "old" bike have a better mechanical baseline, or is Z just that good? What do you guys reckon?
Pure speculation...any data from electronics that Zarco has, Yamaha factory has. Zarco is on the '16? chassis. He's that good.
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Speeddog

Zarco must have the master ninja throttle control.

It's the only plausible explanation I can wrap my head around.
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duccarlos

Quote from: Speeddog on May 10, 2018, 04:53:06 PM
Zarco must have the master ninja throttle control.

It's the only plausible explanation I can wrap my head around.

He’s coming off a Moto2 bike with limited electronic aids. Both Rossi and MV are accustomed to riding a super computer.
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on May 16, 2018, 08:21:58 AM
More details from Pit:

https://www.crash.net/motogp/interview/896178/1/exclusive-pit-beirer-ktm-interview
Looks like he and Herve` are still at odds/not on the same page about Tech 3's purpose.
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duccarlos

Quote from: ducpainter on May 16, 2018, 08:42:24 AM
Looks like he and Herve` are still at odds/not on the same page about Tech 3's purpose.

Ultimately Tech3 is Herve's team. He's already said that Bradley will not fit in. Pit may have an opinion, but not the final say. Herve seems to be more comfortable these days molding new talent from Moto2 rather than established riders that might have developed habits.
Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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ducpainter

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Quote from: duccarlos on May 16, 2018, 09:04:35 AM
Ultimately Tech3 is Herve's team. He's already said that Bradley will not fit in. Pit may have an opinion, but not the final say. Herve seems to be more comfortable these days molding new talent from Moto2 rather than established riders that might have developed habits.
I understand that, but IMO it isn't the best way to start a relationship when the KTM boss says..."So I will now call Hervé and tell him to stop talking about being a ‘junior team’! Please! He made a deal with the factory and that’s why he has factory bikes for his team." and then says "I mean, there is still a last spot open in our total project and that’s why I said the ‘Junior Team’ is not fitting because even Bradley has a chance of that spot, and the Tech 3 team owner says no effin' way.

I see that as Pit wanting a certain amount of say in Herve's business. Maybe I'm wrong...maybe they just want to butt heads forever. :-\
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duccarlos

Quote from: ducpainter on May 16, 2018, 12:44:10 PM
I understand that, but IMO it isn't the best way to start a relationship when the KTM boss says..."So I will now call Hervé and tell him to stop talking about being a ‘junior team’! Please! He made a deal with the factory and that’s why he has factory bikes for his team." and then says "I mean, there is still a last spot open in our total project and that’s why I said the ‘Junior Team’ is not fitting because even Bradley has a chance of that spot, and the Tech 3 team owner says no effin' way.

I see that as Pit wanting a certain amount of say in Herve's business. Maybe I'm wrong...maybe they just want to butt heads forever. :-\
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Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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koko64

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Speeddog

It seemed the MarcVDS team drama was going to deflate rather quietly, but now looks like the shit has hit the fan:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/marc-vds-team-manager-leaves-le-mans-motogp-garage-disputing-allegations-of-missing-funds/
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on May 19, 2018, 10:38:22 AM
It seemed the MarcVDS team drama was going to deflate rather quietly, but now looks like the shit has hit the fan:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/marc-vds-team-manager-leaves-le-mans-motogp-garage-disputing-allegations-of-missing-funds/
WoW...

the drama... :P
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Speeddog

Gotta suck big time for the riders and team squad, they don't get paid enough to deal with that kind of shit.

Upper management has the handbags swinging, they get the big bucks so they are held accountable for not keeping that nonsense under wraps.
Slap each other silly, I don't care, just don't do it in public and undermine your folks on the ground.
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