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koko64

#2400
December 06, 2019, 12:58:55 PM
Hope Z does well.
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Blackout

#2401
December 06, 2019, 01:27:56 PM
Crazy year he has had going from Tech 3 wonderkid to a factory ride with KTM then what appeared to be a factory ride with Repsol and now...Avintia Ducati.
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koko64

#2402
December 06, 2019, 01:35:45 PM Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 01:38:50 PM by koko64
Quote from: Blackout on December 06, 2019, 01:27:56 PM
Crazy year he has had going from Tech 3 wonderkid to a factory ride with KTM then what appeared to be a factory ride with Repsol and now...Avintia Ducati.

He must have some good info and points of comparison for sure.


Being on a 19 bike with "extra factory support" to me means updates to make it turn as part of the direct contract with Ducati. Obviously Z needs that bike to turn if he is to perform anywhere near like he did on the agile Yamaha. I think his performance on the Honda was a good omen considering only Marc can ride it, so I'm hopeful.
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ducpainter

#2403
December 06, 2019, 02:31:20 PM
Soooooo....

does Zarco have an Avintia contract, or a Ducati contract.

Quote from: Mhanis on December 06, 2019, 12:00:07 PM
Just a guess, but I suspect Zarco will find the Duc as difficult to ride as the KTM.

But I guess that is what makes watching so much fun, huh?

Mark
Not so sure Mark. George couldn't ride the Honda after a full year, and it was close to a year before he had any success on the Duc. Zarco climbed on the Honda and was respectable. Now...if the Duc was the Duc that Casey rode o win the championship...I agree, because that Duc was very much similar to the KTM.
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kopfjäger

#2404
December 06, 2019, 02:43:06 PM
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bdfinally

#2405
December 06, 2019, 03:00:43 PM
Why go with 30 yr old Zarco when you have Miller @ 25 & Bagnaia @ 23?
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Speeddog

#2406
December 06, 2019, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: bdfinally on December 06, 2019, 03:00:43 PM
Why go with 30 yr old Zarco when you have Miller @ 25 & Bagnaia @ 23?

Because he's just ridden a fresh Honda?

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ducpainter

#2407
December 06, 2019, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on December 06, 2019, 03:07:32 PM
Because he's just ridden a fresh Honda?


Quote from: bdfinally on December 06, 2019, 03:00:43 PM
Why go with 30 yr old Zarco when you have Miller @ 25 & Bagnaia @ 23?
...and Jack's position is already secure. Unless Johann suddenly starts outperforming jack on year old equipment, it's a done deal.
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Speeddog

#2408
December 06, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on December 06, 2019, 04:14:38 PM
...and Jack's position is already secure. Unless Johann suddenly starts outperforming jack on year old equipment, it's a done deal.

Totally agree.

Ducati may do another poorly executed talent management event, not like they haven't recently.

Johann's fast on the right machine and in the right headspace.
If Butterball learned how to go fast on one, Johann's got a chance.
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ducpainter

#2409
December 06, 2019, 05:09:36 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on December 06, 2019, 04:43:27 PM
Totally agree.

Ducati may do another poorly executed talent management event, not like they haven't recently.

Johann's fast on the right machine and in the right headspace.
If Butterball learned how to go fast on one, Johann's got a chance.
Butterball= Jorge?

The factory put millions into him succeeding. Johann is gonna need to use his talent.
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Speeddog

#2410
December 06, 2019, 05:13:24 PM
No offense to Karel, he's ridonkulous fast.

I think Johann's faster, so it's a win for me as a spectator.  :P
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ducpainter

#2411
December 06, 2019, 05:16:43 PM
I'm still not sure who butterball is.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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kopfjäger

#2412
December 06, 2019, 05:18:47 PM
Danilo
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Speeddog

#2413
December 06, 2019, 06:24:45 PM
Sorry, Jorge is Butterball.

His whole smooth as butter style and and 'fitness'.
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kopfjäger

#2414
December 06, 2019, 06:49:48 PM
Ahh’ grasshopper
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