Always had chokes on my ducks; and kind-a like em for the first 5 min of riding; never stalled a bike until I got the 07 s2r 1K, with the grabby heavy dry clutch, now occasionally stall it like a rookie . Wondering if the "servo" starter assist on the 1K is supposed to keep the rpms up when cold? and is this an electronic adjustment? Seems to idle a little faster at maybe 1400 rpms? asn idles at 1100 when warmed up.

Just bought a choke cable, and now realise I need a bunch of parts; I'll post in parts wanted when its working (not working for me at the moment) will post there later; I'll ask, … if anyone has an extra choke cable holder metal pc with the screws kicking around pls PM, located on the throttle body, under and screwed to the throttle cable holder, … and guess I need the dam left hand control Choke lever mechanisms, (handlebar choke control lever housing (that I had but cant find, either stolen or I maybe chucked it... it was scratched).

Believe parts should be fairly universal form s2r era aluminum bars would work 400 - 620's-800-1K's; and the newer 697's / 795'ves etc. Or suggestions on how to Mechanic McGiver on in the slot on the handle bars would work too; their is aftermarket stuff that should work

The 1000 is supposed to regulate the idle automatically. Lots of stuff need to work in harmony for it to work as advertised.

If you plan to make a manual idle control, the 916 (I think that's the bike...) has a button on the throttle housing. Very simple.

Quote from: stopintime on February 21, 2020, 04:20:00 PM
The 1000 is supposed to regulate the idle automatically. Lots of stuff need to work in harmony for it to work as advertised.

If you plan to make a manual idle control, the 916 (I think that's the bike...) has a button on the throttle housing. Very simple.

ya that's what I though seems to be an evasive adjustment; although I dooo need to look that one up in the mec shop manual; I left it as is last season; but seems to be a low choke when cold at maybe 1400 rpms. Do like a manual mechanical choke like the s2r 800's when its cold.

The 916 button is idle control, but releases when the throttle is turned, so not as much help at lights as the 800 control. It's very much easier to mount though. I'm not sure it's even possible to mount the parts from the 800 on the 1000 throttle cam 'axle'. It has been tried and discussed here (don't know where)(search?).

Anyway - the work required to make your bike make you smile will be required soon anyway. It's not becoming cheaper because you wait.

Quote from: stopintime on February 21, 2020, 04:20:00 PM
The 1000 is supposed to regulate the idle automatically. Lots of stuff need to work in harmony for it to work as advertised.

If you plan to make a manual idle control, the 916 (I think that's the bike...) has a button on the throttle housing. Very simple.

All of that era SBK has that button.

Not sure if it carried over to the 749/999.

Quote from: stopintime on February 21, 2020, 04:20:00 PM
The 1000 is supposed to regulate the idle automatically. Lots of stuff need to work in harmony for it to work as advertised.

If you plan to make a manual idle control, the 916 (I think that's the bike...) has a button on the throttle housing. Very simple.

Yeah, on an S2R1K it's an automagic dingus. To control it you have to control the outputs of the ECU. I have one in the workshop, but it's not connected to a bike.

Quote from: ducpainter on February 21, 2020, 04:58:24 PM
All of that era SBK has that button.

Not sure if it carried over to the 749/999.

749/999 had a fast idle lever like the Monsters.

848/1098/1198 had the FUBAR valve.

Quote from: ducpainter on February 21, 2020, 04:58:24 PM
All of that era SBK has that button.

Not sure if it carried over to the 749/999.

whats SKB? lol

Quote from: Dirty Duc on February 21, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
Yeah, on an S2R1K it's an automagic dingus.

To control it you have to control the outputs of the ECU. I have one in the workshop, but it's not connected to a bike.

ya "automagic dingus"; lost its mojo magic me thinks; the 800 choke is a relatively simple mechanical choke fast idle lever mechanism connected to the TB.

like the man says

Quote from: Speeddog on February 21, 2020, 05:57:20 PM
…. a fast idle lever like the Monsters.

848/1098/1198 had the FUBAR valve.

The automagic dingus requires replacement if it has lost its mojo. The "electronic" throttle dingus from the 800  isn't a 1-for-1 replacement as I understand the technology.  If it were, a person could swap throttle bodies between the  800 and 1K without any other changes.

SBK= Superbike 748/916/996/998

SKB= Japanese shotgun manufacturer

When was last valve service?
Last TPS check?
What map in the ECU?

You would not be adding a choke, you would be adding a fast idle lever which is only opening the throttle a bit.  Your bike doesn't have this because it has an idle speed motor controlled by the computer.  Simpler would be a  throttle lock like this  https://www.aerostich.com/universal-vista-cruise-control.html

Quote from: greenmonster on February 22, 2020, 04:46:14 AM
When was last valve service?
Last TPS check?
What map in the ECU?

This, plus are the temperature sensors working properly.  Oh, add CO and throttle synch to the list.

Quote from: greenmonster on February 22, 2020, 04:46:14 AM
When was last valve service?
Last TPS check?
What map in the ECU?

Quote from: howie on February 22, 2020, 05:00:04 AM
You would not be adding a choke, you would be adding a fast idle lever which is only opening the throttle a bit.  Your bike doesn't have this because it has an idle speed motor controlled by the computer.  Simpler would be a  throttle lock like this  https://www.aerostich.com/universal-vista-cruise-control.html

This, plus are the temperature sensors working properly.  Oh, add CO and throttle synch to the list.

yes, a fast idle lever … that kind-a acts as a choke ...

This 07 s2r 1k has a race ecu; last year I had it professionally tuned by a Duc race mechanic; best in the area. Mec said it had a good strong ecu map.  It had an occasional intake pop before the tuning and a chunky hotrod idle; was unique sound I also knida liked; but runs smoother and better now; think it was running a little rich before; Im assuming he would have seen and reported off on anything that was amiss; no mention of the electronic choke.

IME the FUBAR valves are intermittent, sometimes they're OK, sometimes not.
Dunno if they get gummed up or what the malady is.
Ideally, removed, cleaned and tested.
That's a labor-intensive job and most folks don't want to spend that much.

They can be removed/plugged/bypassed and the sync and idle can be adjusted like prior models.
With an appropriately reflashed ECU, the trim can be adjusted as well.

S2R800 appears to have the same TPS and injectors, so I suspect the entire throttle body could be swapped.
Pretty sure you'd need the left bar switch assembly as the lever and cable are hung off that.