Quote from: gearhead on August 08, 2008, 03:21:47 AM
But your not telling us that minimum wage there is 20 u.s. dollars an hour..............

It would be soooo goood to have that big wage here.

Regular is about 800 USD/month 

Quote from: Ivan Vukchevic on August 08, 2008, 11:27:40 AM

20,000.00 USD = 13,304.81 EUR

Basic model? That much?

http://www.ducati.co.rs/cenovnik.pdf

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It was about 16 000 for the bike (I miscalculated because I bought some apparel) 

Its about 20 regular salaries here 

$9200 OTD for the bike and $860 for the stainless termi pipes.

Love it to death and be sure to get the 14t sprocket!

Quote from: zedsaid on August 08, 2008, 09:26:40 AM
Send a fax to the six dealers nearest you... say "i want this bike, with this on it, for this much out the door."

The first one that matches, wins. (don't forget the out the door part... very important)

That's a good idea and all, but what would actually be a reasonable price that the might actually sell it for?  I don't want to say "give it to me for this price" if there's no way they'd ever sell it for that.

I want a 696 Dark with the 14t and CF Termi's, so if I said that I'd pay $10,500 for that, would it be too unreasonable to even be considered?  How about $10,000?  or even $11,000...

Keep in mind I'm still going to have to get a helmet, jacket, and gloves.  Which I think will add probably $1000 to the total.  Should I try to get those much cheaper too?

I'm just really new to buying stuff that doesn't have an explicitly set price...  I can't walk into my local videogame store and say "okay, here's the deal, I'll buy that PS3 for $450 cash."  Nope, I'd be paying $499 + tax like everyone else... :-/
So it's a totally different thing for me.  Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Also, what happens when I tell them I'll buy it right now for this much and they say they can't do it?  I'd lose any leverage I may have had if I then consider any other prices they lay out.

I guess I just have to stay solid on the price I have, and stick with "I will not buy it for anything higher than this amount." 


This will also be my first bike...

Quote from: SolidSnake3035 on August 08, 2008, 03:44:06 PM
That's a good idea and all, but what would actually be a reasonable price that the might actually sell it for?  I don't want to say "give it to me for this price" if there's no way they'd ever sell it for that.

I want a 696 Dark with the 14t and CF Termi's, so if I said that I'd pay $10,500 for that, would it be too unreasonable to even be considered?  How about $10,000?  or even $11,000...

Keep in mind I'm still going to have to get a helmet, jacket, and gloves.  Which I think will add probably $1000 to the total.  Should I try to get those much cheaper too?

I'm just really new to buying stuff that doesn't have an explicitly set price...  I can't walk into my local videogame store and say "okay, here's the deal, I'll buy that PS3 for $450 cash."  Nope, I'd be paying $499 + tax like everyone else... :-/
So it's a totally different thing for me.  Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Also, what happens when I tell them I'll buy it right now for this much and they say they can't do it?  I'd lose any leverage I may have had if I then consider any other prices they lay out.

I guess I just have to stay solid on the price I have, and stick with "I will not buy it for anything higher than this amount." 


This will also be my first bike...

The wonderful thing about buying something that's not sold in every wallmart... bargaining.  One of them will match your price, or come close... you're figuring out the prices right here. 

If you follow the posts, there's a pretty good concensus as to where the price can be... add a reasonable (but not retail) amount for the pipes, and the sprocket... and i don't think 10,500 is a terrible amount to shoot for. Like you said you're buying gear too... most places will offer 10% off for customers buying bikes, ask for more.  There's still plenty of profit there for them.

Quote from: SolidSnake3035 on August 08, 2008, 03:44:06 PM
That's a good idea and all, but what would actually be a reasonable price that the might actually sell it for?  I don't want to say "give it to me for this price" if there's no way they'd ever sell it for that.

I want a 696 Dark with the 14t and CF Termi's, so if I said that I'd pay $10,500 for that, would it be too unreasonable to even be considered?  How about $10,000?  or even $11,000...

Keep in mind I'm still going to have to get a helmet, jacket, and gloves.  Which I think will add probably $1000 to the total.  Should I try to get those much cheaper too?

I'm just really new to buying stuff that doesn't have an explicitly set price...  I can't walk into my local videogame store and say "okay, here's the deal, I'll buy that PS3 for $450 cash."  Nope, I'd be paying $499 + tax like everyone else... :-/
So it's a totally different thing for me.  Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Also, what happens when I tell them I'll buy it right now for this much and they say they can't do it?  I'd lose any leverage I may have had if I then consider any other prices they lay out.

I guess I just have to stay solid on the price I have, and stick with "I will not buy it for anything higher than this amount." 


This will also be my first bike...

I won't go on about this heavily, but for the record, I do not think the 696 is a good starter bike, and would highly recommend something less quick.

Quote from: someguy on August 08, 2008, 04:15:32 PM
I won't go on about this heavily, but for the record, I do not think the 696 is a good starter bike, and would highly recommend something less quick.

It's my first bike, and maybe it's because i'm on the heavy side for it (210lbs.) but i don't find it scary quick. (maybe it's the tall gearing of 1st and 2nd.)

That said, i'm in no rush for anything faster.

ps the break in period is good for beginners, because being conscious of that ceiling helps you take things slower.

13500 with gloves, helmet, jacket, prepaid maint to 35k, and 5 year warranty.

Bump for more opinions!

$9k OTD... included a nice full face HJC helmet. It had Full Termi's and ECU but they gave me the option of taking it off or leaving it on and charging an extra $1500. I decided since this was my first experience with a Ducati I wanted the "organic" experience first, and if I wanted to have new pipes put on that was always an option later.

Quote from: SolidSnake3035 on August 08, 2008, 03:44:06 PM
Also, what happens when I tell them I'll buy it right now for this much and they say they can't do it?  I'd lose any leverage I may have had if I then consider any other prices they lay out.

I guess I just have to stay solid on the price I have, and stick with "I will not buy it for anything higher than this amount." 

That is exactly the attitude you must have if you are going to be fairly firm with what you are willing to pay.  In other words, you need to be able to walk from the dealer if you think you are being charged too much.  In practice this is easier said than done.  Usually a motorcycle is more of an emotional purchase.  Moreover, when you are buying from a smaller manufacturer, your options for dealers are going to be less.   Finally, you have to keep in mind the current demand for the item you are purchasing.   Set your fairly firm price based upon these factors. 

Bought my 696 Dark three weeks ago...$9466 out the door. Negotiated between a couple of dealers (only two dealers were in the doable price range - two other dealers were ridiculously overpriced). It was a price I could live with and I don't regret it for a second.

So...MSRP is $8775. How much over that are YOU willing to pay?

My opinion is, rather then seek our opinions, figure out how much you are willing to pay. The price that makes you sign on the dotted line versus walking out the door. The amount of money that makes you smile rather than wince.

As far as working deals separate from the actual dollars - depends on what you consider a deal. I know I can get gear cheaper then what a dealer charges so unless they are handing out top shelf gear at bottom shelf prices, I wouldn't be interested. Also, I wouldn't really consider service as a bargaining point myself as I am doing most of my own service (under the tutelage of an amazing mechanic I know - although he often takes over, lol  ). I've worked on my M750 - did my first ever valve job on that bike - and I'm looking forward to tackling the 696 in the future. I also prefer to keep a bike stock until I get to know it well enough to decide what I think it needs to suit me (I have already swapped out the tires on the 696  ). So for me - I just want the bottom dollar and that was the best price I could negotiate between the four dealers.

You want the bike, you are paying for it so ask for what you feel is fair. There is no reason to be hesitant - the worse that can happen is they won't budge. It's not like they won't sell you the bike because you want to haggle. Be bold!

Btw, I am glad I started on a Ninja 250 rather then a Monster for many reasons but everyone is different. After nearly three years on the 250, I now have two Monsters and couldn't be happier. 

It's all about supply and demand.  I just had to have one.  It's my first bike and I waited long enough.  Plus I got the dealer's first red 696+.  Apparently there were not that many red 696 available in the western U.S.  I know, I checked.  I bought at full list $8775 USD plus added some Speedy Moto frame sliders at full list, got a discount on the labor to install and got a nice leather key fob.  Safety gear and apparel were Ducati-expensive, so as of now, none of my gear is Ducati branded.  However I do wear Dainese (got on sale), Sidi, Spidi, and Shoei.  So at least, IMO, I'm still pretty cool looking.

Well it's nice to hear that some people actually got away with paying just around MSRP.

I wonder how availability and pricing will be once we get closer to the fall/winter...