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Hayden/Ducati... and silly season

Started by gm2, July 18, 2008, 11:36:32 AM

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Quote from: Pakhan on August 13, 2008, 11:38:46 AM
That reminds me!  I think Rossi is getting better tires from Bridgestone than Stoner is and that why he has been doing so well.  It's all a conspiracy I tell ya.

no, it is because japanese chip makers have conspired to supply Casey's bike with faulty chips that compute 1+1 as 0.5 which is the real reason he has to keep the throttle cracked wide open.
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gm2

and the chip in Marco's bike reads something like, "ehhhhhh, it's about, ahhhh dis much, ya, dat's about good enough...."
Like this is the racing, no?

Capo

Passing 'Off track' is not permitted by the rules that state that no advantage may be gained by deviating from the course. Ducati would have been within their rights to protest, Honda would have(remember the 'sweeping' incident at Qatar in 07)

Rossi should have been disqualified.


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derby

Quote from: Capo on August 14, 2008, 12:14:39 PM
Passing 'Off track' is not permitted by the rules that state that no advantage may be gained by deviating from the course. Ducati would have been within their rights to protest, Honda would have(remember the 'sweeping' incident at Qatar in 07)

Rossi should have been disqualified.

you mind linking to the exact wording of that rule?
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Quote from: Capo on August 14, 2008, 12:14:39 PM
Passing 'Off track' is not permitted by the rules that state that no advantage may be gained by deviating from the course. Ducati would have been within their rights to protest, Honda would have(remember the 'sweeping' incident at Qatar in 07)

Rossi should have been disqualified.

what advantage?  he was already ahead.
Like this is the racing, no?

Pakhan

Quote from: gm2 on August 14, 2008, 12:29:50 PM
what advantage?  he was already ahead.

Remember those secret special tires I mentioned?  They run better off track.  Conspiracy.  Shhhhh.  ;)
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Capo

http://www.fim.ch/EN/rules/Sportifs/ccrGP/2008/GP_sport_en.pdf

'Riders should use only the track and the pit-lane.However,if a rider accidentally leaves the track then he may rejoin it at the place indicated by the marshals or at a place which does not provide an advantage to him.Any infringement of this rule duringthe practices or warm up will be penalised by the cancellation of the lap time concerned and during the race, by a ride through.
Further penalties (such as fine â€" disqualification â€" withdrawal of Championship points)may also be imposed'


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Jester

Quoteif a rider accidentally leaves the track then he may rejoin it at the place indicated by the marshals or at a place which does not provide an advantage to him

Rossi rejoined the race ahead of Stoner, the same place he held when he went off track in the first place.  As stated by gm2, the pass had already been made.  He ran it too deep, but Rossi was in first when he ran it off track.
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Quote from: JesterDFW on August 14, 2008, 01:20:05 PM
Rossi rejoined the race ahead of Stoner, the same place he held when he went off track in the first place.  As stated by gm2, the pass had already been made.  He ran it too deep, but Rossi was in first when he ran it off track.

+1.  If anything he lost some position.  He went off the track about a bike length ahead of Stoner...he came back on just about even with him.  Nevermind he used Stoner to stay on the track after he re-entered.  [laugh]

Best GP race in a couple years...and Capo is saying Rossi should be disqualified?  ??? WTF!  [roll]  Even Casey seems to have backed off his intial statements...I think he was just amped/frustrated when he made his initial remarks.

derby

Quote from: Triple J on August 14, 2008, 01:56:05 PM

Nevermind he used Stoner to stay on the track after he re-entered.  [laugh]


they didn't touch (at least not after the crested the 'screw).
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Quote from: derby on August 14, 2008, 01:59:19 PM
they didn't touch (at least not after the crested the 'screw).

I thought they did...just watched it again and guess not.  Took a few times in slow motion though to confirm...they were CLOSE!  :o

sqweak

ok

i'm not stirring shit. i'm over it... (really! ;D)


BUT

I find this rossi quote interesting, considering what he and his defenders said about this incident ;)

Quote from: rossi
"I'm also quite unhappy with Elias today because I think he was quite dangerous - more than once he passed me on the inside and then altered his line. This is not a correct way to race," Rossi said last April. (link to post-race quotes).

(thanks for the link to the link derb [cheeky])
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derby

Quote from: sqweak on August 14, 2008, 02:47:12 PM

(thanks for the link to the link derb [cheeky])


you didn't remember that incident? i was pretty sure it'd also been brought up in at least one of the other recent threads.
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