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How about Brake Upgrades on an S4R?

Started by Lukey, August 14, 2008, 08:38:19 PM

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Lukey

Speaking of wheel swaps, what about brake swaps?  I'd love, when the time comes to replace rotors, to go with the better setup that comes on the S4Rs or any similar system which might be on one of the superbikes.  Ideas?
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-Precious little else because I like what Ducati came up with

Slide Panda

Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999.  Get the masters from one too.  You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers.  You'd probably need some different brake lines made up.  But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.

To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more.  You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.
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Speeddog

Braketech iron rotors, 4-pad calipers, a new line, and a radial master if you really want to.
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hypurone

Quote from: Speeddog on August 15, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
Braketech iron rotors, 4-pad calipers, a new line, and a radial master if you really want to.


Yeah! I'm going with those rotors and the ceramic pads when I burn thru the pads on my S4RS (or before my next track day if I can swing it). LA has convinced me.
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Lukey

'04 S4R (996 Motor)
-Arrow CF Exhaust
-RaceTech Gold Valve suspension F/R
-Precious little else because I like what Ducati came up with

loony888

you can get a kit from d/p that has the 4 pad calipers in gold (not silver like on the 999) with the correct brake hose and banjo bolts and washers specifically to suit the S4R, i have it with the std master cylinder and iron rotors and stoppies are too easy!!!! ;D


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Monstermash

Quote from: yuu on August 15, 2008, 07:03:16 AM
Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999.  Get the masters from one too.  You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers.  You'd probably need some different brake lines made up.  But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.

To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more.  You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.

Ahhh...You beat me to it Yuu!

I'm guessing you like the brakes on my....er.....your bike?
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Quote from: yuu on August 15, 2008, 07:03:16 AM
Well you could bolt on a set of brakes from a 999.  Get the masters from one too.  You'd pick up radial masters and 4-pad 4-piston calipers.  You'd probably need some different brake lines made up.  But those calipers use the same mounts as your bike and same rotor dia and offset.

To get radial mounted calipers will cost you a lot more.  You'd need new fork ends and possibly a different wheel on top of different rotors.

This is exactly what I did, and it turned out nice.  The new setup has more power, but very good feel as well.  Just don't do like me and spend an afternoon measuring for custom brake lines, only to write down the wrong numbers on the drawing.  Doh!




LA

Fred at Yoyodyne sells everything Brembo you can imagine and he is very knowledgeable on what works and doesn't.

I really like the BrakeTech iron floaters w/carbon cp211 pads, but having said that the stock brakes that come on a S4RS (4piston 4 pads) are pretty awesome. Takes changing the fork bottoms though, which is sorta spensive. Fred carries all that stuff.

Check prices. The best after market rotors are cheaper than OEM.

LA
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He Man

Quote from: Cider on August 17, 2008, 09:18:25 AM
This is exactly what I did, and it turned out nice.  The new setup has more power, but very good feel as well.  Just don't do like me and spend an afternoon measuring for custom brake lines, only to write down the wrong numbers on the drawing.  Doh!





Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.
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Quote from: He Man on August 18, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.

AFAIK, that's the standard mounting bracket for radial calipers on aftermarket Ohlins forks.
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loony888

Quote from: Speeddog on August 18, 2008, 10:01:11 PM
AFAIK, that's the standard mounting bracket for radial calipers on aftermarket Ohlins forks.


i think it's the ohlins mounting point for the various caliper mounting brackets, so you can buy those forks with a bracket kit to suit the brake set up you want to use.


paul.

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Capo

Its a conversion kit and introduces a second bolted joint vs a radial caliper fork bottom.


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Cider

Quote from: He Man on August 18, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
Thats not a real radial mount... its just a radial mount for the brakes that mounts umm.. non radially? lol Where did you get that piece? looks werid! pretty cool though.

R&T forks with Cycle Cat brackets (not made any more) and radial calipers from a 999.

Quote from: Capo on August 19, 2008, 01:26:02 AM
Its a conversion kit and introduces a second bolted joint vs a radial caliper fork bottom.

The second bolted joint is there for axial calipers too.  That's just how the R&T forks used to be.  The big difference is that new fork bottoms start around $1000, and I got the Cycle Cat brackets on close-out for about $55.

loony888

didn't the radial calipers come on the 1098? i thought the 999 had the 60mm spaced 4 pad brembos?


paul.

HERE AND NOW                      12 DIAVEL AMG
                                              93 888 RS
                                              09 1098R BAYLISS
                                              07 Husqvarna TE 450

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN        03 S4R       95 900SL
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