i'm trying to remember (had them on my 99 M900), but i think the TI cans dissipate heat the same way as the CF cans. (someone please chime in who has TI cans)

For those who to need to stay emissions legal, the TI cans are the only ones that can be used other than stock.

Price wise it goes
SS @900
CF @1300
TI @1600

so TIs for the price of CF is a pretty good savings. now CF or TI for the price of SS and I'd sell some stuff to get that quick.

Quote from: nkryptit on August 27, 2008, 05:07:28 AM
+1
I have the CF cans on my 696...I can jump off, and grab them if I wanted, only the tips get hot.

you have any pics?

Quote from: Raux on August 27, 2008, 05:21:22 AM
i'm trying to remember (had them on my 99 M900), but i think the TI cans dissipate heat the same way as the CF cans. (someone please chime in who has TI cans)

For those who to need to stay emissions legal, the TI cans are the only ones that can be used other than stock.

Price wise it goes
SS @900
CF @1300
TI @1600

so TIs for the price of CF is a pretty good savings. now CF or TI for the price of SS and I'd sell some stuff to get that quick.

the guys at the dealership said that the titanium does dissipate the heat. but not as good as the carbon fiber ones...

I agree that the statement about them looking ratty in one year is a gross misstatement. However, it is true that over time the Ti will hold up better than the CF. I have old Termi CF cans on my bike (maybe 6+ years old). The clearcoat has long since disappeared, the CF looks faded, and there are spots that are starting to fray from something rubbing on them. However, I got these cans for free and they were clearly abused, so who knows how long they could last if properly maintained?

The thing I definitely like about the CF, as has been mentioned, is that they don't get hot. Ti will never do that as well.

Ultimately, get what you like!

Quote from: mrplease on August 27, 2008, 05:39:26 AM
the guys at the dealership said that the titanium does dissipate the heat. but not as good as the carbon fiber ones...

I have Ti Zards and they never get more than pleasantly warm, so really, I think the 'temperature issue' they're pushing here is a spurious one.

Go for what you like the look of.

 


...its totally understandable that a shop wants to push what they have in stock and i'm OK with it.

But LIEING about a different product?!? WTF!!!  

...if i were you, my friend, i would buy the CF ones (if that is what you wanted) form someone else and not go back.

The way they flat out LIED to you about the CF sais enough about them to not go back...

where do you live? TX AZ socal?...i live in LA (plenty of sun) and have had CF pipes on my monster since 2004...still perfect.
on my 998 i have pipes and all sorts of goodies in CF since 2005...still perfect...

so bottom line:

1) if you want CF dont worrie about it, just get it
2) i wouldnt go back to that shop again for nothing but a sale

ps: whats the shop?

the shop is the texas plano ducati dealership

Couple points... 

I have carbon cans on my monster s4r and ti cans on my 1098s.  Both dissipate the heat nearly the same.  I can put my hand directly on either after riding the bike hard.

That being said, if you get the carbon cans, I would recommend bringing them to the paint shop to be UV clear coated before you install them on the bike.  I did that and they look brand new, 3 years later.   I have seen many CF cans that look like crap very shortly (1 year) after install.

If you love the CF look, go for it!  Coat em and be done!!

Quote from: ducducgooseme on August 27, 2008, 11:01:43 AM

I have carbon cans on my monster s4r and ti cans on my 1098s.  Both dissipate the heat nearly the same.  I can put my hand directly on either after riding the bike hard.

+1

I had Ti cans on my M900. They never got hot either, just like my cf cans.

Get whatever you think looks better. CF does fade a bit if it sits in the sun a lot. Clear coat will solve that. My bikes don't sit in the sun all the time (Seattle...I'm not even sure the sun visits here), so my cf still looks fine.

Quote from: KEH on August 27, 2008, 06:16:11 AM
I agree that the statement about them looking ratty in one year is a gross misstatement. However, it is true that over time the Ti will hold up better than the CF. I have old Termi CF cans on my bike (maybe 6+ years old). The clearcoat has long since disappeared, the CF looks faded, and there are spots that are starting to fray from something rubbing on them.

The carbon fiber on the used ST2 tht I just bought looked really, really bad when I bought it. The front fender was milky white pitted, and the fibers of the carbon appeared to be faded in some spots. There were a couple of spots where the clear seemed to be thin and worn to the point where I could make out where the weave was showing through the worn clear. I was able to lightly sand most of the white off the clear coat, and the fender looks a bit better, but now it looks like some of the carbon weave is exposed. It will need to be reclear-coated to look good, again. The tank protector was also milky white in several areas and that cleaned up fairly well with somewet sanding.....I was informed that both of these items were Ducati Performance parts and less than ten years old.

I say buy what you want. Personally, I view carbon fiber on a Ducati like chrome on a Harley. I'm removing all the carbon fiber from this ST2 and selling it while replacing the parts with standard OEM parts. On the other hand, my wife's Monster has a carbon fiber seat cowl, carbon high-mount Termis, carbon slip-on heat-shields, and originally was supposed to have a carbon front fender and rear hugger.

What's with all the people checking to see if their exhaust is hot? Seriously-why would you grab an exhaust to check it for heat? It's asking for a burn, and even if you discover it doesn't get too warm-who cares? Do you plan on parking it up against something? Would you rig up an A/C? What am I missing here?

Quote from: someguy on August 27, 2008, 12:04:44 PM
What's with all the people checking to see if their exhaust is hot? Seriously-why would you grab an exhaust to check it for heat? It's asking for a burn, and even if you discover it doesn't get too warm-who cares? Do you plan on parking it up against something? Would you rig up an A/C? What am I missing here?

I was thinking the same thing.  Just a note, after a hard ride, my engine gets hot.  Is this normal?

a lot of people carry passengers and want an exhaust that isnt hot to the touch because of that.

rear passenger comfort is the issue for me. the stock cans are awful hot for the wife. want to bring down the temperature for her... i'm the only thing that's supposed to get her hot 

...i see many ducs around here and truth is, verry few have faded carbon fiber Termis...the faded ones i have seen (not many) were non Termignoni...

+1 on the clear coat, but just as an extra precaution and to extend the "bran new look"

never seen a CF pipe become crappy in less than 1y (unless it was crappy from the begining)

...FYI there are many different kinds of CF. Some weves are tighter, some are bigger, some are colored...the clear coat they put on them is what goes bad...some clear coats are, already when new, yellowish...(i think 2 bros or D&D carbon fiber is coated with a wellowish clear when new...)

Termignoni weve is the tightes i have seen, the clear is clear and it hold age pretty damn good.

On the other side, Ducati Performance parts are probably the worst i have ever seen. The weve is wide, the fibers are lighter and look as they are faded from the get go, the clear is not as good as aothers....it goes yellow much faster...

...that being said last time i bought a DP carbon part was 2 years ago so maybe they have changed  

ps: ask then why they are willing to take 325$ off the Ti and nothing off the CF