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Not Again... bike is broken - Rear hub pins. Fixed. Broken.

Started by newslacker, August 24, 2008, 11:12:21 PM

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bryant8

hopefully by some off chance they have the hub in stock and it's an easy swap [thumbsup]

here's to a quick turnaround on the bike [beer]
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012

newslacker

Quote from: fastwin on August 26, 2008, 06:47:22 AM
Is this in any way a warranty deal or is it coming out of your pocket? I hope it can somehow be construed as a warrany issue for your sake. Ouch, another three week wait. Sorry bro'.

The pin that fell off has stripped threads. If that was the cause then I would guess that it would be covered. Unfortunately, I'm out of warranty by about a week now, and who knows if they would cover it anyway.

Quote from: bryant8 on August 26, 2008, 06:49:05 AM
hopefully by some off chance they have the hub in stock and it's an easy swap [thumbsup]

here's to a quick turnaround on the bike [beer]

I hope they don't replace the hub. I just want new pins. If there is something wrong with the entire assembly...

2007 S4Rs

Cyclone

 ??? Wow - this looks like a serious problem - pretty high on the scary scale!  Do registered Ducati owners get recall database access on Ducati's site ?  I don't seem to find a recall notice thread on the main Forum - if there is not one a registered Duc owner should probably start one.   

Search your vehicle here;

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/RecallSearch.cfm

Here are a few old legal actions I found on a legal website searching Duc hub failure that I hope two of our Members ( 916 Owners ) are already aware of :

Site source : http://injury.findlaw.com/defective-dangerous-products/recall/recall.feeds/nhtsa/1998/02/pr020498b.html

Ducati North America, Inc.

Model:
Ducati 916   Years: 1994-1995

Number Involved: 1,316
Dates of Manufacture: Not yet available
NHTSA Recall No.: 97V221
Vehicle Description: Motorcycles.
Description of Defect: The throttle control linkage pin was not lubricated properly.
Consequence of Defect: The engine throttle can bind and not return to proper idle.
Corrective Action: Dealers will lubricate the throttle control linkage pin using grease containing molybdenum disulphide.
Owner Notification: Owner notification schedule has not yet been provided.
Note: Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Ducati at 1-973-839-2600.

Ducati North America, Inc.

Models:
Ducati 900SL   Years: 1993
Ducati 900SSSP   Years: 1994-1997

Number Involved: 2,380
Dates of Manufacture: Not yet available
NHTSA Recall No.: 97V222
Vehicle Description: Motorcycles.
Description of Defect: The rear brake reaction rod nut and bolt can fail.
Consequence of Defect: This condition can cause increased braking effort.
Corrective Action: Dealers will replace the rear brake reaction rod nut and bolt with a new modified nut and bolt.
Owner Notification: Owner notification schedule has not yet been provided.
Note: Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Ducati at 1-973-839-2600.

Ducati North America, Inc.

Models:
Ducati 916   Years: 1994-1995

Number Involved: 649
Dates of Manufacture: Not yet available
NHTSA Recall No.: 97V224
Vehicle Description: Motorcycles.
Description of Defect: The rear wheel spindle can fail and the roller bearing and seals of the hub are not properly lubricated.
Consequence of Defect: This can result an increased braking effort.
Corrective Action: Dealers will replace the rear wheel spindle and lubricate the roller bearing and seals of the hub.
Owner Notification: Owner notification schedule has not yet been provided.
Note: Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact Ducati at 1-973-839-2600.

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damn...three weeks.  sorry to hear that man, though i can't say that's surprising at all.  hopefully it ends up being something that doesn't cost you, besides not being able to ride your bike for a few weeks.

and thanks for the recall info; i wasn't aware there was a recall item on my bike.  no idea if the parts on my SS in that area are still original.  i wonder if AMS would check it out.
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newslacker

The bike is now in AMS' hands. Scott was kind as usual and says their backlog isn't so bad right now. They have the pins in stock. So, perhaps it will be done in time for the AR ride.
2007 S4Rs

bryant8

Glad to hear the bike is in the shop and in queue for some repairs.  Maybe they'll bump it up since you have a big ride coming up [thumbsup]
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012

newslacker

I forgot to mention that to Scott when I dropped it off.
2007 S4Rs

Duc L'Smart

Quote from: newslacker on August 26, 2008, 09:25:30 AM
So, perhaps it will be done in time for the AR ride.

They should be able to fix it in under 4 weeks...

Any luck on warranty?
'07 1098s, '06 Paul Smart LE, '99 BMW K1200RS, '73 BMW R75/5, '67 Ducati Monza 250 Bevel Drive, '63 Vespa GS 160

fastwin

Patrick,

You gonna try and make the AR ride? Did I miss that post in the AR ride thread? If so, great!! Glad some more peeps can make this trip. That means  a couple of folks don't have to be bored to death by my longwinded bullshit all by themselves. They thank you. [thumbsup]

newslacker

I haven't been on a trip this year so I've got the itch pretty bad. I just put on new rubber in preparation for it. I just hope this repair doesn't set me back too far.

...

I think the AR thread disappeared for a while... shouldn't that be a sticky?
2007 S4Rs

newslacker

Quote from: newslacker on August 24, 2008, 11:12:21 PM
Put on new tires today and found this nastiness on my rear hub:


It's fixed now, sitting in the garage, awaiting instruction.

The diagnosis: I'm a retard because I don't know how to mount Ducati wheels.

The solution: When you mount a wheel on the S4Rs, you put the wheel on, hand tighten the nut and wiggle. If the nut feels tight and the wheel feels loose, rotate the wheel around one more pin. Repeat.

Apparently this was an issue on the 916?? I don't get it Ducati, why would you let me do this to myself! You must protect me from... me!

2 hours of labor + 4x $25 for the pins = $300 +change with tax.

God save me.
2007 S4Rs

bryant8

I wonder if this is an issue w/ the SBK hubs as well?
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012

newslacker

2007 S4Rs

RichD

Quote from: bryant8 on September 03, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
I wonder if this is an issue w/ the SBK hubs as well?

I'm almost certain it could be.  It was an issue on the 916, and the 848 is similar design from what I've heard (I've never taken one apart myself).
Even bigger! ...on the 1098 SBK with the forged wheels: There are four holes for the pins to mate with on the wheel hubs.  AND four kidney-bean shaped slots on the wheel where the pin COULD go.  If you land on the slot instead of a hole everything will still bolt upstraight/true. 
Damage will result.

Are the base/cast/848 wheels that way? I don't know.   ???

Even on your car, it is common practice to spin the nut(s) down hand tight, give the wheel a spin to make sure spins "true", then torque.

At least you'll never do that again!  [thumbsup]

;D
DFW-MFer!

bryant8

Good to know.  I personally haven't removed my wheels, but Randy at the warehome did when he did my tire swap.  I'm sure he it back on correct, I probably wouldn't have.
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012