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Throttle Response question

Started by herm, August 29, 2008, 06:33:18 PM

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stopintime

Thank you, very please [beer]

I took the HM up to 120 mph and it seems like the engine is unresponsive - kind of like the S2R is on lower revs. Not much, but noticeable.
That feeling matches well with the theory that there is no such thing as optimal performance on both high AND low revs.

Also, that speed made me praise the riding position and wind screen on the Monster.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

Jarvicious

Quote from: stopintime on August 31, 2008, 09:48:44 AM
Also, that speed made me praise the riding position and wind screen on the Monster.

"wind screen"
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red baron

Quote from: Spider on August 31, 2008, 03:24:36 AM
ah, this might help a little....we share the same 992ds engine.

I went from stock M1000s and installed the termi + ecu+ airbox and felt that it rev'd a lot quicker - the torque between 3000 and 6k was/is amazing - my fuel economy took a beating and part of it I believe is because I was changing down gears whilst in the 6500 area whilst before I could keep the engine reving nice and low and keep her at 3200 then once she got to 5 go down, well the thing would just fly right past 5 so quickly after the installation that I had to relearn my shifting behaviour

It didn't alter the 'instant' feel of the throttle as you describe though, it felt like it just freed up the engine so it would accurate more effortlessly.

Stopintime and the stats could therefore be onto something!


This exactly describes the difference between my S2R1k and a MTS1000(with Termi and ecu) that I test rode. The MTS just felt derestricted and freed up. Where as my 1k feels corked up.

That's it I'm ordering the complete Termi setup. [thumbsup]
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Statler

Herm,   take my key at the next DIMBY.   Monsterlover hated my bike but mostly because he didn't fit on it (you likely won't either),  but it will give a sense of "responsive" throttle for reference.

;D

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herm

Quote from: Statler on September 07, 2008, 10:35:05 AM
Herm,   take my key at the next DIMBY.   Monsterlover hated my bike but mostly because he didn't fit on it (you likely won't either),  but it will give a sense of "responsive" throttle for reference.

;D



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Quote from: herm on August 29, 2008, 06:33:18 PM
ok, first thing... i might be mislabeling this topic. if so, please correct me.

i recently took a spin on a hypermotard, one of the ones of the hyper truck. the throttle response was incredible. it was right there, instantaneous. had to be carefull not to loft the front wheel by mistake (that was against the ride rules) . this was the second hyper i have demo'd, but i dont remember such a contrast with the last one

i think the bike i rode had the 2-1 termi + ecu. dont know about the sprockets.

my question is -- why doesnt my s2r1000 have the same kind of response? is it the 1100 cc motor? is it the exhaust + ecu? is my throttle just sticky?
i would especially like to hear from those who own an s2r1000, and have ridden a hypermotard

THX

I have a pretty well set up Monster 1000 and it's way better than a stock Hyper, both in power/torque and in throttle response. I thought the Hyper was a bit dull in comparison - I've ridden three now and still prefer my 1000DS motor.

Your S2R is likely to be hampered by stock fuelling settings designed to get it through noise and emissions testing. My 1000 has DP cans, open airbox & filter and a Power Commander and has had some dyno time and the throttle response is pretty much instant. No real reason why an S2R should be the same except the lambda sensor can be a pain - have a look on the UK Monster club site as a couple of guys have been working on this

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=29448
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=29645

Hope this helps
Ped
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www.ukmonster.co.uk
Currently bikes 1993 M900 (the original!) & 2004 1000DS Monsters!

bazz20

the main reason is it 1078 cc and it a motard  so all the powers down low simple