mine also had miles on her when I bought her, but the duc dealer allows test rides. 

No test rides where you are - that guy is lying to you.  Either one of the employees took it home for the weekend, or it was sold and brought back.  the dealer may have traded it with another dealer and not realized the mileage, and now he needs to get rid of it - but the decent thing would be to own up to it, and stand behind the sale.  It's his lack of truth that's hitting you hinky.  Back to what Statler said.

I saw my bike on the floor.  It read 1 mile on the od.  The salesman and I laughed about some Italian stevadore taking it for a spin.  When I picked up after dealer prep it had 3 miles on the od.  Looked like a legitimate part of set up and testing to me.  We made some more jokes about a rental fee from the service tech. 

I ddin't have any experiece with start and warm-up problems with my 695.  From day one it, cold or hot, it started within seconds of pressing the starter.  Given that it is fully electronically controlled and the manual specifies a particular use of the "choke," I would think that a failure of new bike to smoothly start and idle is not a good sign.  Probably why the first buyer brought it back so soon?? 

(If I crash because my dealer leaves grease on the tires after installation, my next stop will be at plaintiff law firm, not the dealer, and my next bike will be a custom Bimota.)

Quote from: Tommy T. on September 07, 2008, 12:06:53 PM

(If I crash because my dealer leaves grease on the tires after installation, my next stop will be at plaintiff law firm, not the dealer, and my next bike will be a custom Bimota.)

Mold release on the tires is not new.....

Quote from: He Man on September 06, 2008, 12:43:55 PM
Thats not armor all on tires, thats just new tires with grease still on it from putting the tire on.

You wanna see what happens when you have armor on your tires? just kick your bike when its on the sidestand. itll save you the trouble of scratching your gear.

Grease?? who uses grease to mount tires?

Quote from: Cucciolo on September 07, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
so what the hell do you have to do right after you get new tires?

Here you go, one of my best kept secrets:

Get some good Viton or Nitrile rubber gloves, some clean rags, and a pint or so of medium urethane reducer.
Put the gloves on, wet the rags, rub on tires until they are de-goo'ed.  Be careful to not get the reducer on the paint... it is paint thinner you know!   

You now have sticky clean new tires.

I mount my own.  I do this every time.

Quote from: SUPER DUKE! on September 07, 2008, 12:27:12 PM
Here you go, one of my best kept secrets:

Get some good Viton or Nitrile rubber gloves, some clean rags, and a pint or so of medium urethane reducer.
Put the gloves on, wet the rags, rub on tires until they are de-goo'ed.  Be careful to not get the reducer on the paint... it is paint thinner you know!   

You now have sticky clean new tires.

I mount my own.  I do this every time.

Makes a lot of sense!!!! I will do that... thanks for the tip!!!

if you have armor all on your tires,  good luck geting it off. you cant wash it of with soap, only something ammonium based or perhaps a degreaser. SUPER DUKE's suggestion is pretty much spot on. But thinner wont do as much damage to your wheel as you think. As long as you wipe it of quickly and wash the wheel afterwords so you remove all the mineral residue, you should be fine.

for brand new tires, you can just scrub it clean. The guy that put the tires on that gsxr probably didnt even wipe the grease of.

Riding in the rain is different from riding with new tires. You can ride pretty aggressive in the ride, as long as you are smooth with the throttle. With new tires... id say ride it like your trying to warm up a tire that takes forever to warm up. the more miles you put on it, the more lean you can give it, the real point is just to physically scrub of the top layer of rubber and expose fresh grippy rubber.

Also dont even put armor on the wall of your tire. Rotation force pushes the goo onto the treads and then the treads reduce at some point and onto the middle of your tire. Ask me how i know. no better yet, just kick your bike over and go "ohhhh"

Quote from: Raux on September 06, 2008, 07:13:59 AM
walk away. can you get a bike from a stateside dealer?
how about financing from the bank and just walk in with a check for the full amount. you'll get better rates too.

wallk away. Ever have a girl say the wrong shit when u want to date her really bad but despite her foulness you want her anyway and you know it's a bad deal?

Quote from: ghostface on September 07, 2008, 06:46:55 PM
wallk away. Ever have a girl say the wrong shit when u want to date her really bad but despite her foulness you want her anyway and you know it's a bad deal?

Ah ha, the little head ruling the big head 

Quote from: He Man on September 07, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
if you have armor all on your tires,  good luck geting it off. you cant wash it of with soap, only something ammonium based or perhaps a degreaser. SUPER DUKE's suggestion is pretty much spot on. But thinner wont do as much damage to your wheel as you think. As long as you wipe it of quickly and wash the wheel afterwords so you remove all the mineral residue, you should be fine.

for brand new tires, you can just scrub it clean. The guy that put the tires on that gsxr probably didnt even wipe the grease of.

Riding in the rain is different from riding with new tires. You can ride pretty aggressive in the ride, as long as you are smooth with the throttle. With new tires... id say ride it like your trying to warm up a tire that takes forever to warm up. the more miles you put on it, the more lean you can give it, the real point is just to physically scrub of the top layer of rubber and expose fresh grippy rubber.

Also dont even put armor on the wall of your tire. Rotation force pushes the goo onto the treads and then the treads reduce at some point and onto the middle of your tire. Ask me how i know. no better yet, just kick your bike over and go "ohhhh"

Keep hearing about this grease used to mount tires, is it LM, Moly or what.