I know that you can start you engine out of gear (or rather not in neutral) when you have your clutch engaged.   
The problem is
When I upgraded my coffin MCs to MCs with a remote reservoir, the (I dont know what it is called) switch that completes the circuit when the clutch lever is pulled was not able to make it over to the new Masters.  I accidentally broke them and now the engine can only be started in neutral

The part I broke has 2 male bullet connectors going into 2 female lines.  I would assume when the clutch is engaged, it completes this circuit. My question is, Can I just connect the 2 female lines ends together to complete the circuit so that it is as if the clutch is always engaged?

Do you foresee any problems with this (other than starting to engine with out the clutch engaged).  Also, do you know where I may be able to find such a part or rather what it is called so I can check the local shops?

Thanks in advance.

I believe that will work.

The only issue is if you forget to pull the clutch and it is in gear.

Quote from: ducpainter on September 24, 2008, 02:59:07 PM
I believe that will work.

The only issue is if you forget to pull the clutch and it is in gear.

Yeah.  Dont what that to happen at fast idle.  Do you know what that little doodad is called?

Quote from: OwnyTony on September 24, 2008, 03:26:42 PM
Yeah.  Dont what that to happen at fast idle.  Do you know what that little doodad is called?

Clutch Safety Switch?

No clue really....

Ducati just call it "microswitch" in the parts catalogue. I would not feel comfortable without it.

Do you guys know of any place that i could get something that does the job but not necessarily oem

The only thing I would feel uncomfortable with not having it right now is if it were to stall in traffic.  hence completing the circuit so that it will.  Just have to be careful that i dont start engine in gear. 
Again, if you guys know of any non-oem or a place where i may score one....

Quote from: stopintime on September 24, 2008, 05:23:52 PM
Ducati just call it "microswitch" in the parts catalogue. I would not feel comfortable without it.

My 96 has none of that stuff...

works fine...

until you try to start it in gear without pulling the clutch...

I only did it once.     

Quote from: ducpainter on September 24, 2008, 05:57:20 PM
My 96 has none of that stuff...

works fine...

until you try to start it in gear without pulling the clutch...

I only did it once.     

What do you mean?  Your bike will start regardless of rather or not it is in gear/neutral? 

I havent tried it before nor do I want to but since you have experienced starting the bike with out the clutch engaged, what happened?  I would assume your  indicated that the bike jumped forward.

Was it an "uncontrollable" jump, as in, you were not able to hang on to it and dropped the bike?  Im sure you were surprised/spooked if it indeed did leap from under you.

My monster 750 would start in gear. When I sold it to my son-in-law, he started it while standing next to it and it lurched forward. It was amazing that he caught it before it fell. It would have gone down taking the bike next to it. He'll never do that again. I would try to get the part you need to avoid the potential problem.

Thanks for all the replies.  I all ready ghetto rigged it.  I can now start the bike in gear (and with out the clutch engaged).  Im assuming a lot of the earlier monsters were able to do the same thing.  Just the newer monsters are more "safe" due to that one feature.  I dont start the bike without the clutch engaged and I always sit on the bike when I start it anyways. 

Just to report, my thinking was correct.  It can be rigged to work.  Just have to be more "careful"

US monsters started out with a self retracting (suicide) side stand and warning light.  Then, after too many bikes were dropped, a relay that prevented the bike from running if the sidestand was down.  You have the latest generation.

Quote from: ducpainter on September 24, 2008, 05:57:20 PM
My 96 has none of that stuff...

works fine...

until you try to start it in gear without pulling the clutch...

I only did it once.     

Yea.  That sucks.

My starter switch got stuck once without my knowledge.     So when it came time to restart it, I was causually sitting on the bike putting a glove on when decided to reach down and go ahead and turn the switch on.  Rameses was there to witness the event.  It was damn funny for him (me too afterwards) and very surprising for me.  I think the bike move about three feet before I could the switch off or clutch pulled (I don't remember which).  Luckily I didn't drop it. 

.... I remember another thread; infact maybe it was in the substitute parts thread about the "micro switch"; someone was saying you can get it at radioshack for 1.49. 

I was researching this as was mine got bent out if shape and wasn't engaging for a while; I found out when I stalled on a steep hill and went to restart with 50 cars behind me; very embarrassing and I had to get it into neutral to restart ... I felt 100 eyes burning into the back of my head ... not one car beeped.

technically speaking, you can get any switch you like to complete the circuit. It really doenst matter.

my old duc never had that switch. If i started in gear it would drag my ass into the street. After learning to ride on that bike (and droping it over 6 times) i can ride a bike without that switch. after the first few times of starting it in gear, youll think of riding a bull everytime you saddle your bike and you will check to see if its in neutral.

Problem with the new IE bikes is i think there is an actual start up sequence. My bike was a carb so the second i got of the start button, it stoped. my S2R1000 will continue to fire for ~ 5 seconds even if it starts up. That would mean you have to hold on for dear life for a while

I've got a kick-start bike.  Yup, you only forget to pull the clutch in at startup when it's in gear once...  My M750 will start without the cluch pulled in.  It's just a habit for me to pull the clutch & front brake lever in when I start ANY bike ~

JM