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Monster 1000 redesign / update

Started by SSSA, May 14, 2008, 08:29:56 AM

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SSSA

So with all the new bikes from Ducati and the lack of an update in three years, can we expect a new Monster 1000 this year?
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BellissiMoto

Quote from: SSSA on May 14, 2008, 08:29:56 AM
So with all the new bikes from Ducati and the lack of an update in three years, can we expect a new Monster 1000 this year?

The question is would you want what they will present?

I mean, I have no idea if they are bringing out a new version this year, but if they do, I have to hope they do not follow in the footsteps of the 696.

also, expect the 1000 engine to disappear entirely, and get replaced by the 1100 soon.

J3

Yeah, plan on the 1100 engine for sure.  I would expect similar styling to that of the 696.  As of now we can only speculate as to whether it will be dry/wet clutch, SSSA, upgraded forks/brakes, etc...  I'm hoping they do something a with the exhaust that will allow for better right foot clearance and ease of luggage mounting.


Alex

I wish they would stop it with the displacement increases every single update. Bigger displacement is not a technological advancement, it is just a tradeoff. I don't know why they act like increasing the size is somehow a step forward. It's great that the newer engines are better designed too, but I just don't think the monster ever needs to be 1100.
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wbeck257

I suspect Ducati is waiting on releaseing a design/concept of any sort on the new larger monsters until they can see how the 696 does.
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J3

I'm hoping that no matter what they do, they retain one version (pref air cooled) of the old style monster in the sport classic line.  Call it the "Monster Classic" or what-have-you.  Of course this is just hoping and keeping up tooling and production lines costs money...

SSSA

Quote from: wbeck257 on May 14, 2008, 09:00:37 AM
I suspect Ducati is waiting on releaseing a design/concept of any sort on the new larger monsters until they can see how the 696 does.

That's an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. The 696 sales should say wether the redesign is a failure or a flop.
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mitt

Quote from: Alex on May 14, 2008, 08:58:32 AM
I wish they would stop it with the displacement increases every single update. Bigger displacement is not a technological advancement, it is just a tradeoff. I don't know why they act like increasing the size is somehow a step forward. It's great that the newer engines are better designed too, but I just don't think the monster ever needs to be 1100.

+1

mitt

Scottish

I'm still hoping for something base on the 848 engine!!!  [moto] Tha'd be a fun scooter!

MotoCreations

Quote from: SSSA on May 14, 2008, 09:24:23 AM
That's an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. The 696 sales should say wether the redesign is a failure or a flop.

I think you will see the 696 based frame / bodywork faster than you imagined.  Reason is that it is cheaper to manufacture for Ducati in Europe.  Given the 1.54 dollars to 1.0 Euro exchange rate currently (and higher transportation costs for delivery process itself) -- Ducati's are only going to get more expensive every sales quarter.  I'm also figuring you will see wet clutches only on everything except for the top end racebikes or limited edition bikes.  It isn't cost effective to offer two clutch variations on the same engine platform ala DS1100. 


Juan

Quote from: MotoCreations on May 14, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
I think you will see the 696 based frame / bodywork faster than you imagined.  Reason is that it is cheaper to manufacture for Ducati in Europe.  Given the 1.54 dollars to 1.0 Euro exchange rate currently (and higher transportation costs for delivery process itself) -- Ducati's are only going to get more expensive every sales quarter.  I'm also figuring you will see wet clutches only on everything except for the top end racebikes or limited edition bikes.  It isn't cost effective to offer two clutch variations on the same engine platform ala DS1100. 



Sadly I believe you are right..!!   :(

duc996

Quote from: WannaDucBad on May 14, 2008, 10:53:57 AM
I'm still hoping for something base on the 848 engine!!!  [moto] Tha'd be a fun scooter!
+1
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Big Troubled Bear

Would love to see a 1100 Ds Engined 696 Single sided swingarm version [thumbsup]
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Juan

As long as they have a dry clutch, I would be ok with that..!!