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Ducati is making a Hypermotard??

Started by Got Duc, October 03, 2008, 03:45:29 PM

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Rameses

Quote from: GotDuc on October 04, 2008, 01:15:42 PM
Gel seat seems the way to go.

I have a 32" inseam and had no trouble touching. Adding the gel seat will put me flat foot on it I believe.

As far as the wind on the test ride I had it going pretty good and the wind wasn't that bad at all.




I'm a 32" inseam also, and can easily flatfoot mine with riding boots on.  With shoes, my heels touch the ground, but my knees are pretty straight.

I'll put my stock seat back on and see how it affects the flatfoot-ability.




Geoff, here's a pic with the Corbin.  I was in the process of putting on a carbon fiber handlebar.  I just finished that project up last night, so I'll take some pics of that sometime soon.

I'll email you the pic too.   [thumbsup]


geoffduc

thanks John for the photo,it sure looks comfortable.
answer to the guy about wind blast is to try the ducati wind screen it makes rideing at speed alot more pleasant. [moto]
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Pedro

The Hyper is kinda fun, I've ridden 2 or 3 now but there's no way I'd swap my 1000DS Monster for one, the Monster is way quicker (ok it has a PC, customer map etc etc). I came away from riding the Hypers thinking it was under powered (try a KTM Super Duke...!) but would agree the handling is crisp, almost uncrashable with so much front end grip. What I hated was being say up so upright, making anything over about 80mph a real pain.
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MonsterSteve

I guess its personal preference.

I just spent all day on my buddies HM1100S and it handles better than my S2R1K with thousands into the suspension. You say that the S2R1K is faster than an HM1100, perhaps in a straight away or highway pushing 120mph other than that I would have to call bullshit, of course it could just be me and I am more comfortable throwing a hyper around. who knows, dont get me wrong, I love my S2R1K but not as much as the HM1100S, trading her in this week for one.
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Rameses

Quote from: MonsterSteve on October 13, 2008, 07:16:45 PM
I guess its personal preference.

I just spent all day on my buddies HM1100S and it handles better than my S2R1K with thousands into the suspension. You say that the S2R1K is faster than an HM1100, perhaps in a straight away or highway pushing 120mph other than that I would have to call bullshit, of course it could just be me and I am more comfortable throwing a hyper around. who knows, dont get me wrong, I love my S2R1K but not as much as the HM1100S, trading her in this week for one.


I wasn't gonna say anything since I've never been on an S2R1000.

Raux

Quote from: MonsterSteve on October 13, 2008, 07:16:45 PM
I guess its personal preference.

I just spent all day on my buddies HM1100S and it handles better than my S2R1K with thousands into the suspension. You say that the S2R1K is faster than an HM1100, perhaps in a straight away or highway pushing 120mph other than that I would have to call bullshit, of course it could just be me and I am more comfortable throwing a hyper around. who knows, dont get me wrong, I love my S2R1K but not as much as the HM1100S, trading her in this week for one.

why dont you wait til you can test the Monster 1100.

Cucciolo

The M1100 has 5hp more than the hyper... I am not sure how much of a difference that makes when riding them. if it's a lot.. then the new 1100 engine should be a lot of fun. Torque is the same but the hyper reaches the 76lb-ft at 4700rpms vs 6000 for the M1100.

Rameses

Quote from: Cucciolo on October 13, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
The M1100 has 5hp more than the hyper... I am not sure how much of a difference that makes when riding them. if it's a lot.. then the new 1100 engine should be a lot of fun. Torque is the same but the hyper reaches the 76lb-ft at 4700rpms vs 6000 for the M1100.


And with the Termi kit, the Hyper's actually pushing around 83 lb-ft.   [evil]

Cucciolo

Quote from: Rameses on October 13, 2008, 09:16:33 PM

And with the Termi kit, the Hyper's actually pushing around 83 lb-ft.   [evil]

wow,..  very cool.. so you would say that the new M1100 should be as much fun as you motard..

Raux

Quote from: Cucciolo on October 13, 2008, 09:25:24 PM
wow,..  very cool.. so you would say that the new M1100 should be as much fun as you motard..

dont forget to subtract about 25 lbs for the 1100.

Rameses

Quote from: Cucciolo on October 13, 2008, 09:25:24 PM
wow,..  very cool.. so you would say that the new M1100 should be as much fun as you motard..



No idea.

Completely different bikes.

I like the Hyper riding position a lot now that I'm used to it though.

MonsterSteve

dont get me wrong, I love the looks of the new Monster 1100 and with the new motor and S spec suspension its going to be a huge improvement over the current model. However let me give you a short list of things it doesnt have when comparing it to the Hypermotard, rear Ohlins shock without compression adjustment (your kidding right, whats the point) two piece cast radial brakes in instead of the monoblocks, no rear ride height adjustment, no pretty magnesium bits, (while the new case covers are cast with new technology the magnesium bits are sharp) lets not forget the step backwards in regards to the one piece rearsets / pass pegs, the wheels are cast aluminum and not the typical S spec forged aluminum wheels, and the seating position, well lets just say you have plenty of room to move around and sit anywhere you want as long as its up against the tank. I would also like to say that the new Monster is using Seimans electronics for the fuel mapping and what not, call me crazy but if it aint broken dont fix it, Magneti Marelli has been a Ducati tradition since, oh I dont know, the begining of time.

sorry I dont want to come off as hater of sorts but I have just weighted the options over and over again and this is what I have come up with, not to mention the msrp for the M1100 is 14500 and I can get a HM1100S for 14K mainly because they will discount the HM and not the Monster 1100 because its new and they know they will sell, and they will.
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hooksem

I have an 07 S2R1K that I picked up about 3 months ago.  I've put about 3500 miles on it and have enjoyed the fool out of it.  However, I made a big mistake by test riding the HM1100S a couple weeks ago.  I fell in love with it!  I'm 5'9" so it was a little tall when I first sat on it.  That was the main reason I didn't consider it when I bought the S2R...  Well, once I was in motion, I enjoyed the heck out of it.  It was quick, nimble and stopped really well.  I actually felt more comfortable making turns on the HM than the S2R.  Am I crazy?  Maybe it's because I rode dirtbikes as a kid??

Anyway, I'm trying to find out if it is possible for me to make the trade.  I'd hate to eat too many thousands!

MonsterSteve

dont forget they also make a lower seat which will help with your height issue. I am 5'10" with a 29" inseam so I have a tough time touching but that has never bothered me, tippy toes is fine at a light or I just lean a bit more to one side and I can flat foot on that side. Hell I raised the ride height of the Monster so it was almost higher than the HM.
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LA

It's a personal thing I know, but when I think of spending practically the same $$$ on both, the Monster s4rs looks better to me.

The 1100S has 1.4" more front wheel travel, and it's 15 mm. longer wheelbase. Both are listed at 390 lbs. and the S4RS carries 2.7 liters (6 lbs.) water.

Ground clearance is not a problem on either.

Both make 76 lb.ft. of torque, though at different rpms and the Monster makes 40 more HP.

MSRP is $1000 more for the Monster and for the specs. it's cheap to me.

But if I had the money to have both? Nope, I'd get a 1098R model instead. ;D

LA
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