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Cold Starts on a 696

Started by slim_grizzy, October 14, 2008, 08:01:12 AM

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gearhead

  My bike always starts perfect no matter the temp. Full fast idle ,push the button and decrease as necessary to maintain a decent idle. It's in the upper 40's here in the morning.

Howie

Fast idle on your 695.  Only carbies have a choke.

Takster

Quote from: slim_grizzy on October 14, 2008, 08:01:12 AM
As the weather has cooled down in the mornings (upper 60s/low 70s) now that it's fall, I've noticed my 696 has a lot harder time cranking up.  I know that it has the fast idle switch and all, but it takes several starts before it cranks over and gets going.  It helps to have the bike straight up to get the oil around but it still takes a bit.  Anyone else having this kind of trouble with their 696's?

The same happens for me... I mean, it starts eventually, but the things got <500 miles on it.  It should start reliably every time.  I'm bringing it in for the 600 mile maintenance shortly, so I'll insist that they fix it.  I'm kind of BS about the whole thing to be honest.  I'll let you guys know what happens.

'09 Monster 696

ArguZ

Choke, idle whet ever ;)
Its called "Starthebel" in German and adjusts the "Standgasdrehzahl"
I wonder why an electronic controlled injection needs that, besides of being retro, which i like.
And keeping it on 1500 feels just right...And it never dies on a stop light.
Starting the engine just to warm it up is not environmental friendly I say.
If it runs, I go

Milk Run


After I removed the charcoal canister, cold starts became much easier.

Takster

Quote from: Milk Run on October 15, 2008, 09:16:22 AM
After I removed the charcoal canister, cold starts became much easier.


Those are some magic words you just spoke.  I've been thinking about it, now I've just got to.

'09 Monster 696

zedsaid

I've had a couple of rough cold starts, and once or twice it's died as soon as i round the corner... but looking back on it, it always seems to me that i turned the key and hit the starter.

Maybe it's a matter of letting the pump prime?
Red 696- You can call her Isabella.

Takster

Quote from: zedsaid on October 15, 2008, 11:54:52 AM
I've had a couple of rough cold starts, and once or twice it's died as soon as i round the corner... but looking back on it, it always seems to me that i turned the key and hit the starter.

Maybe it's a matter of letting the pump prime?

Excuse what is probably a total newb question, as this may be obvious to some of you, but what exactly does "letting the pump prime" mean?  Isn't this a non-issue for fuel-infected engines?  It's not like we have fuel petcocks with a 'prime' position...

'09 Monster 696

zedsaid

Quote from: Takster on October 15, 2008, 12:29:53 PM
Excuse what is probably a total newb question, as this may be obvious to some of you, but what exactly does "letting the pump prime" mean?  Isn't this a non-issue for fuel-infected engines?  It's not like we have fuel petcocks with a 'prime' position...

Turn your key and listen.  You will hear a whirring sound.  That's the pump "priming", pushing fuel from the tank to the injectors.  The injectors need pressure to, you know, inject fuel.  Otherwise it'd be like those last few drops of piddle before you shake.
Red 696- You can call her Isabella.

Mad Duc

Quote from: slim_grizzy on October 14, 2008, 08:01:12 AM
As the weather has cooled down in the mornings (upper 60s/low 70s) now that it's fall, I've noticed my 696 has a lot harder time cranking up.  I know that it has the fast idle switch and all, but it takes several starts before it cranks over and gets going.  It helps to have the bike straight up to get the oil around but it still takes a bit.  Anyone else having this kind of trouble with their 696's?

Bing. Same issue with mine in the same temp ranges. Very hard to get started, 2-3 minutes of pissing about. I was thinking it might have been the reformulated gas we have here over the summer. I had the coil issue taken care of at the 600(closer to 1200) mile service. I'm still having a weird issue at ~4000 rpms and a weird metallic popping sound when I hit the throttle hard. You have the same issues? I have the termi kit without any other engine / exhaust mod. I'm at bit over 2k miles right now.

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Takster

Quote from: zedsaid on October 15, 2008, 01:44:01 PM
Turn your key and listen.  You will hear a whirring sound.  That's the pump "priming", pushing fuel from the tank to the injectors.  The injectors need pressure to, you know, inject fuel.  Otherwise it'd be like those last few drops of piddle before you shake.

Thanks.

'09 Monster 696

MonsterMI

It was 36 this morning when I started up the 696 for my commute to work and it fired right up with the cold start lever fully "open". I let it run like that until the idle really picks up and then move it to about the halfway point until I see two bars on the temp gauge. Then I push it forward to fully "closed" and off I go. Works like a charm every time.

mbalmer

My 695 started hard at times until I had the charcoal canister removed and new exhaust put on (not sure which made more difference). Now, I also keep it hooked to the battery tender. Fires right up.
Is it June yet?