We had an "S2R 1000 flat spot" thread a couple of weeks ago and we all described our woes and gave theories of what the problem was and what the fix was.

Well Bazz20 posted that he "tricked his bike to think it is cold."

This interested me as I knew my S2R 1000 ran better when it was cold. I PMed Bazz20 and asked for info. He sent me this link http://www.celoxperformance.com/powermodule.html and told me that he got one from Ebay.

I linked to Ebay from their site and ordered one...$17.71 USD, delivered.

Got it yesterday and installed it last evening. Took the Monster for a ride this afternoon. Temp was high 50's F and I really wasn't expecting much as the bike ran better in the cold anyway.

Wow !!!

I described my bike's problem as "juttering". At low speeds, low RPM it would judder and even had a clicking sound comming from the motor. To me it felt like the ECU was doing an on/off, on/off, on/off to the fuel delivery.

Well today I was crusing in 5th and 6th at 2500 RPM and the bike was absolutely smooth! Unheard of prior to the addition of this sub $20 part. Even seemed smoother in all gears at every speed.

Proceedure: Disconnect battery, remove two headlight bolts and lower headlight from the brackets. unplug air temp sensor and push two bare wires from the part into the "communication" sockets of the plug where the sensor was plugged into. Tape everything back up and reinstall the head light and take your "new bike" for a ride...You will be amazed.

What do you have to loose anyway $20 and an hour of your time? Completely reversible if you hate it...so you are out $20 if you do.

IMO and on my bike, this is the best mod I have made to the bike with respect to performance and "bang for the buck" ...bar none!

Well, you paid nearly $20 for a $3 resistor.
Does your bike tell you what the air temp is?

BC.

Glad to hear your bike is running well.  It is a good feeling when a motorcycle starts to run they way you knew it should. 

I wonder if there are any hazards now that bike has been tricked to think it is cold.  Could this affect the engine in any way?

Quote from: Travman on October 16, 2008, 09:14:06 PM
I wonder if there are any hazards now that bike has been tricked to think it is cold.  Could this affect the engine in any way?

Sure, the bike now uses exactly the same fuel mapping regardless of actual temperature.  When it's hot, the bike is likely to run very rich.

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 16, 2008, 08:07:38 PM
Well, you paid nearly $20 for a $3 resistor.

gotta love the haters!

You could also spend $80 for what I hear is a $5 resistor w/some adjustments.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11272.0

Quote from: mmakay on October 16, 2008, 09:54:48 PM
Sure, the bike now uses exactly the same fuel mapping regardless of actual temperature.  When it's hot, the bike is likely to run very rich.

the bike does not run very rich , yes it does richern it up but only too the point of where it should be , and once you reach 4 grand all the censor become redundant anyway and as for being a 3 dollar resistor well it comes in a little case to protect it and out here in the sticks spending a hundred  bucks on fuel to drive to an electrical shop seems a bit backwards to me 

Quote from: Bladecutter on October 16, 2008, 08:07:38 PM
Well, you paid nearly $20 for a $3 resistor.
Does your bike tell you what the air temp is?

BC.

Well I paid $20 for someone to know what size resistor to put in a little black box, instructions to tell me where to put it, a website letting me know that this item exists and what it can do for my motorcycle, packaging to hold the item while it is shipped to me and shipping directly to my mail box.....

Without a doubt, the best $20 I've spent on that bike since I bought it!

Capitalism,  entrepreneurism...gotta love it!

Does the bike tell me what the air temp is??? Huh?

Wonder if I could do this for my EURO 3 norm 695 as well..
I noticed that click on-off thing too and I bet its to to that eco crap going on.
Wonder how the Lambda probe would like it.

Quote from: ArguZ on October 17, 2008, 03:51:22 AM
Wonder if I could do this for my EURO 3 norm 695 as well..
I noticed that click on-off thing too and I bet its to to that eco crap going on.
Wonder how the Lambda probe would like it.

it works fine with the lambada censor , im just letting people know thats theres a cheap fix out there and this is the second bike ive had it on , and its no different to what people are doing with o2 censors or buying a dpcu  or any other command chip and i dont have any affiliation with the people who sell the product , i was a little skeptical at first too but  at 20 buck thought why knot but it does work and works  well   

Quote from: bazz20 on October 17, 2008, 05:04:29 AM
....its no different to what people are doing with o2 censors or buying a dpcu  or any other command chip....

Don't fool yourself, its nothing like having a DP ECU, or PCIII, or any other type of remapping.......   I'm not saying it won't seem to run better, but its not going to run as well as it could (should) under the full range of conditions.

Quote from: bazz20 on October 17, 2008, 12:18:47 AM

....and once you reach 4 grand all the censor become redundant anyway....   

How do you know this?  There is some speculation that the ECU ignores the inputs from the O2 sensor when the rpms are higher than some threshold and the throttle is opened more than some threshold percentage.  What makes you think it stops using the inputs from the temp sensor and the baro sensor?  On my S2R1K, that widget you're messing with also provides the atmospheric pressure input for the ECU.  Does your mod preserve this function? Have you verified that the engine runs well at sea level and 5000 ft altitude?  I suppose if you don't have any hills in your area this may not matter to you.... 

Quote from: bazz20 on October 17, 2008, 12:18:47 AM
the bike does not run very rich , yes it does richern it up but only too the point of where it should be , and once you reach 4 grand all the censor become redundant anyway and as for being a 3 dollar resistor well it comes in a little case to protect it and out here in the sticks spending a hundred  bucks on fuel to drive to an electrical shop seems a bit backwards to me 

You said you tested it in the "high 50's".  I'm just saying that you might get very rich when it's a lot hotter out.  Like in the 90's.

Quote from: Old-Duckman on October 17, 2008, 02:18:32 AM
Well I paid $20 for someone to know what size resistor to put in a little black box, instructions to tell me where to put it, a website letting me know that this item exists and what it can do for my motorcycle, packaging to hold the item while it is shipped to me and shipping directly to my mail box.....
Without a doubt, the best $20 I've spent on that bike since I bought it!
Capitalism,  entrepreneurism...gotta love it!
Does the bike tell me what the air temp is??? Huh?

How'd you old guys are so smart.

LA

Quote from: mmakay on October 17, 2008, 08:06:05 AM
You said you tested it in the "high 50's".  I'm just saying that you might get very rich when it's a lot hotter out.  Like in the 90's.

+1

you dont know if its a spits out a constant temp reading, or it takes actual and subtracts a percentage from it. Also, how do you know the guy even did the math right?

How many more moles of air are there in 50 degree air vs the air temp they decide to put it at?

atleast with the 02 sensor the engine is trying to reach a specific value.

It is a known fact that nothing is more precise and will yield the same results as dyno tuning. However, if the seat of the pants dyno can notice that much of a difference it is undoubtedly money well spent. Unless  the cylinders are washing out it's much better for an engine to run a bit rich than to run lean. Just my .005