... 'Cause you can't do Freddie's school anymore and god help you if you had a deposit apparently.

http://www.fastfreddie.com/

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=34773

Ouch.

it's worse:

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=34774

Ugh.  Well, hopefully this means that they kick his ass off of the SPEED telecasts too. 

Of course, now if a rider has a bike repo'd, we get to hear him tell us how he's been through that before and how he handled it...

Pretty sleazy.

Dirty pool, Freddy.

WTH? Do racing schools have a lot of investments in insurance or mortgage backed securities? I ain't buying it.

It's a shame.

Quote from: superjohn on October 23, 2008, 06:32:59 PM
It's a shame.

I agree: I think it's a serious bummer.  A bummer the school is no longer available, and a bummer that at least one guy got hosed for a lot of money.  I was there in August and they didn't mention anything about canceling dates in July.  I guess I won't be seeing my videos in the mail anytime soon.

and Keith speaks...

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=34782

though I am curious whom he considered to be the big 3 as it were?

after doing level 1&2 at Barber, I just can't help but think of Keith as a burn-out flakey muppet with the way his eyes bug out with his seemingly disconnected from his shoulders head bob while he gives his class sessions....but that is another story...

Quote from: zooom on October 24, 2008, 04:42:54 AM
and Keith speaks...

though I am curious whom he considered to be the big 3 as it were?

Spencer, Schwantz, and Pridmore?

Pridmore ->Reg's CLASS school or Jason's STARR school?......problem is...some of those schools are so regionally located...you have to travel...and some of the regionally located non-national-chain schools I think are as good if not better...

FOR INSTANCE - I had a problem personally with the fact that I had to fly to Barber to attend CSS and learn a new track, an unfamilar bike (going from my 98 Monster 900 track bike to their Kawasaki ZX6RR 636), and to take in their curriculum(which most of day 1 was like going back to kindergarten and wasting my time personally speaking-though it allowed me the parameter to get used to their bike a little bit and the track)....I would have much rather(if it wasn't given to me as a gift) taken MY bike to VIR (where I am very familiar with the track and done more than a few track days there) and then maybe gotten more out of their curriculum possibly....there are many schools though like Cornerspeed (especially with their Cornerspin offshoot) that teach as effectively with as much content and personalization and are as World Class, IMHO, without having to truck my crap more than a full day's worth of driving to attend...

For me, the schools that provide bikes work out well.  Miller is the closest track to me (about 5 hours), but I don't have a truck or a trailer. 

I had wondered if the economy was hurting Spencer's school.  When I went last year, it was full--20 students; a few weeks ago, there were only nine of us.  When I think about how much overhead they have (bikes, tires, insurance, track, classroom, garages, instructors, mechanics, food, travel, vans, etc.),  I can see how it must be a challenge to keep the doors open.

Quote from: Cider on October 24, 2008, 07:30:08 AM
For me, the schools that provide bikes work out well.  Miller is the closest track to me (about 5 hours), but I don't have a truck or a trailer. 

VIR is 5 hours from me, and I do have my ScoobyTruck with a small trailer...but you can always rent a pick-up truch and use a ramp or a reinforced 2 X 6

Quote from: zooom on October 24, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
VIR is 5 hours from me, and I do have my ScoobyTruck with a small trailer...but you can always rent a pick-up truch and use a ramp or a reinforced 2 X 6

That sucks...there are three tracks within an hour for me...

This sucks. A friend and I were planning to do his school at Miller next September.  My buddy just talked with Nick Ienastch (sp?) a couple months ago at Sportbike NW, and was all jazzed to go. 

Quote from: zooom on October 24, 2008, 06:42:48 AM
Pridmore ->Reg's CLASS school or Jason's STARR school?......problem is...some of those schools are so regionally located...you have to travel...and some of the regionally located non-national-chain schools I think are as good if not better...

jason.  definitely not reg.

Quote from: zooom on October 24, 2008, 06:42:48 AM
FOR INSTANCE - I had a problem personally with the fact that I had to fly to Barber to attend CSS and learn a new track, an unfamilar bike (going from my 98 Monster 900 track bike to their Kawasaki ZX6RR 636), and to take in their curriculum(which most of day 1 was like going back to kindergarten and wasting my time personally speaking-though it allowed me the parameter to get used to their bike a little bit and the track)....I would have much rather(if it wasn't given to me as a gift) taken MY bike to VIR (where I am very familiar with the track and done more than a few track days there) and then maybe gotten more out of their curriculum possibly....there are many schools though like Cornerspeed (especially with their Cornerspin offshoot) that teach as effectively with as much content and personalization and are as World Class, IMHO, without having to truck my crap more than a full day's worth of driving to attend...

someone forced you to attend CSS?  i know you said gift.. but i bet you could have contacted the school and traded for another date if you wanted to.  and who complains about going to barber?! 

- their cirriculum is set.  and with as many successful attendees as they've had, it's safe to say it works.  it starts with level 1 no matter who you are and wisely so.
- you're learning particular drills, particular skills; it's not a track day.  all the lessons, especially on the lower levels, start out very slowly speed-wise.  after the first session, you get turn-in points marked on the ground.  so you need to be really familiar with the track in this situation why?


bummer about freddie.  maybe he's turned his focus to phonics.