Quote from: SA_S2R on November 02, 2008, 07:07:44 PM
Finally got the chip or box or whatever you want to call this part. Will hopefully get it installed sometime this week and test it out next week end.

Curious to hear your results. I am still 100 percent pleased. I was able to get the Monster out on some high 60-ish days and still remarkably smoother than prior to this mod...

I couldn't be happier!

Quote from: SUPER DUKE! on November 02, 2008, 08:17:31 PM
If you paid $3 for that resistor you got ripped off.   


...and on the topic of whether you should do any of this or not, my reply is:
"I think we're ALL GOING TO DIE."

Eventually.

If this is a rip off...it is the best $20 rip-off I ever dropped a 20 on!

It is so funny to me that you guys will spend $150 on mirrors that replace ones that worked as good or better...(bet they are about $20 worth of glass and aluminum too) but you act like this is the stupidist thing that one can do to their bike.

I Laugh as I enjoy the smoothness this $20 rip-off brings to my bike every time I fire it up and go for a ride!

I've been looking for a local S2R1000.  I'll be sure to remember your $20 fix if I have any smoothness problems. 

Probably will not be able to get to it until the weekend. Is the air sensor like a little cone with slits in it?

Quote from: SA_S2R on November 05, 2008, 04:33:57 PM
Probably will not be able to get to it until the weekend. Is the air sensor like a little cone with slits in it?

Yep, that's it.

Since the wires comming out of the black box have no spade, or other kind of fitting on them (just two thin bare wires) I folded the end of each wire back on itself to give it more contact area with the plug on the monster wiring harness.

I think it would have been nice if they had supplied solder on or crimp on adaptors for the bikes it fits and you could fit those to the wires prior to attaching the box to you wiring harness...Oh well.

BTW on my Monster (06 S2R 1000) you plug the wires from the black box into the wiring harness plug to contact the grey/black and the grey/red wire. These are the info wires, not the power and ground wires. It doesn't matter which wire from the box goes to those two wires on the harness.

I only removed the two bolts that the headlight pivots on (big allen head bolt on each side of the headlight) put a towel on the front fender and let the headlight lay on the towel/fender when I was installing the box. As the instructions say, tape up both the box and the unplugged sensor. Make sure you tape both up well so no water gets into either the unplugged sensor (in case you want to hook it up at some later time) or the wiring harness of the bike.

Sounds more complicated that it is. Now that you know which wires to plug into, it should be a 15 minute job max ! Most of my time was spent verifying which wires in the harness to plug into.

how about "fat duc 02" for $80  Has anyone tried it?

Quote from: Old-Duckman on November 05, 2008, 08:03:34 PM
Yep, that's it.

Since the wires comming out of the black box have no spade, or other kind of fitting on them (just two thin bare wires) I folded the end of each wire back on itself to give it more contact area with the plug on the monster wiring harness.

I think it would have been nice if they had supplied solder on or crimp on adaptors for the bikes it fits and you could fit those to the wires prior to attaching the box to you wiring harness...Oh well.

BTW on my Monster (06 S2R 1000) you plug the wires from the black box into the wiring harness plug to contact the grey/black and the grey/red wire. These are the info wires, not the power and ground wires. It doesn't matter which wire from the box goes to those two wires on the harness.

I only removed the two bolts that the headlight pivots on (big allen head bolt on each side of the headlight) put a towel on the front fender and let the headlight lay on the towel/fender when I was installing the box. As the instructions say, tape up both the box and the unplugged sensor. Make sure you tape both up well so no water gets into either the unplugged sensor (in case you want to hook it up at some later time) or the wiring harness of the bike.

Sounds more complicated that it is. Now that you know which wires to plug into, it should be a 15 minute job max ! Most of my time was spent verifying which wires in the harness to plug into.

Thanks for the write up on how you installed this, as I was not too impressed with the installation instructions that came with the box. Anyway, as soon as I can burn off some gas this weekend I'll do the install and report back.

Quote from: Orangettes on November 05, 2008, 10:45:08 PM
how about "fat duc 02" for $80  Has anyone tried it?

I did a Google search and it sure sounds like a nice set-up. I read a brief write-up at Web bike world. The guy loved it. I like the fact that it is adjustable. Though the adjustability is nice to have...I don't have any equipment to tell me how must adjustment it would require. The guy in the article says he thinks he must have adjusted his right by blind luck and he is not about to mess around with it.

Might be a good idea to pick one up (before those who know what's best for us, take them off the market) and put it on the shelf to take to the mechanic with the bike the next time I get it tuned. I wonder if it would work in conjuction with black box I have on now?

Actually his results sound very similar to mine with the exception that his was 4 times the price of what the black box costs...Still an inexpensive fix.

It is a shame that we have to play these games that the enviro-weenies have foisted on us in the name of "global warming" or some other such bogus nonsense...Let my bike breath the way it wants to!! and leave me alone! (soapbox mode off)

The Fat Duc 02 works and allows the air fuel mixture to be adjusted. I had the dealer put one on my Multistrada 1100 and have put 500 miles on it in a week. It smoothed out all the roughness, it does not give you an increase in power just takes care of the lean issue. At a 1000 miles the dealer is going to pull the plugs and o2 sensor to see what they look like.

Got the box installed, but unfortunatly have not had much of a chance to try it out. I did fire the bike up and cruised around the neighborhood in 1st and 2nd and it did seem smoother. Will post a full update when I get a chance to put some miles on the bike.

OK - had my first chance to do a run on a local raod with some twisties and I must say that it did feel smoother. I wouldn't go so far as to say you could roll on the throttle at 2,500 rpm in 6th and it be smooth, but it was better. One thing that was noticibly better was the ability to cruise in 6th around 65-70 with out it feeling like it was chugging.

Will update again after I get a few more miles on it.

SA_S2R, glad it is working for you.

Unfortunately we probably just had our last nice weather for awhile, yesterday.

Either way I have the Monster in the basement for winter storage and would need to turn it around (tight squeese in there at the moment) so, I don't expect to be riding till spring of 09...a bit of a depressing thought.

Did you do any "around town"riding yet? Great improvement on my bike it that rev/speed range. I also noticed big improvement just putting around local roads in the 45 - 50 MPH, 5 & 6th gear areas.

Quote from: Old-Duckman on November 15, 2008, 03:38:18 AM
SA_S2R, glad it is working for you.

Unfortunately we probably just had our last nice weather for awhile, yesterday.

Either way I have the Monster in the basement for winter storage and would need to turn it around (tight squeese in there at the moment) so, I don't expect to be riding till spring of 09...a bit of a depressing thought.

Did you do any "around town"riding yet? Great improvement on my bike it that rev/speed range. I also noticed big improvement just putting around local roads in the 45 - 50 MPH, 5 & 6th gear areas.

I did try it out for a few more days and did get preety good results with it, however I did notice a really strong smell of gas when letting the bike warm up in the mornings. Drivability was much improved though in the 3-4,000 rpm range and overall I was happy with the results especially given the bargain price of $20.
Ultimately unplugging the temp and pressure sensor did not sit well with me and and I decided to order a Fat-Duc O2 Manipulator. I replaced the black box with the Fat-Duc and have been happy with the results.
If anybody wants to a getly used black box for $10 +S&H then PM me.