I checked Ducati's site today and the S4R is gone...not for sale anymore....forever!

I am glad I have a rare 2005 "Senna" (gray tank - red wheels) S4R (996)....it's a keeper

I've gort a Pearl White S4Rs w, 7 prepped miles mothballed and connected to a battery tender.   Dolph

Don't you have 2?

Quote from: factorPlayer on November 16, 2008, 12:33:12 AM
Don't you have 2?

Yes , my other one has 4431 miles on it .    Dolph

Can the Street Fighter even be considered a update to the S4R ?  It is not really just a stripped 1098 with a new name and some new bits / tuning.  It was designed as a super bike and it is still a super bike.  Is the S4R not original and unique because it doesn't really fit into any category?  It is a bike that was never intended to be a super bike or designed to hang with the sport bikes.  Then it ends up being fitted with a super bike engine (among other things) and can hold its own with just about any machine out there.  It is the final evolution of a species that climbed to the upper half of the food chain.

Quote from: mz3onturn7 on November 16, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
Can the Street Fighter even be considered a update to the S4R ? 

Absolutely not. The S4R was a Monster, the street fighter is not.
Beginning of a classic?

How can I find the production numbers for the S4R?  I would like to see how many units were produced in each configuration... ex:  Color, Base / S model, year etc...

I think it's important to remember that when the Monster made its debut back in the '90s there was only the 900 here in the US and it was quite a few years later that Ducati opened up the range to include a 4v model.  On the other end of that spectrum, we never even got the 400 Monster in this country.  I wouldn't be surprised one bit to find Ducati working on a 4v model based on the new body style we now have in the 696 and 1100, but they've certainly got to test the waters and make sure the 1100 sells well in the new look.  So far the feedback looks good so I think we can keep our fingers crossed and remain hopeful.  Certainly the Streetfighter is not a Monster, and the price for the S model (to be released first) definitely cements that notion.  Meanwhile, those of us with S4R and S4RS models can take comfort in having fairly unique models that (hopefully) gain some collectible status.  I know I'm darn glad I bought my S4RS Tricolore and can't imagine ever selling it.  A fine testament to a grand iconic body style that has now passed into the history books.  Long live our Monsters!

What mxwinky said!

I see the Streetfighter as a totally different machine just as the Monster is different than the Multistrada which is different than the Hypermotard. I don't think I'll ever sell my S4RS TriColore, just hope to add a Streetfighter to the stable........so I guess buying a new car became less important.

Quote from: mxwinky on November 17, 2008, 09:05:23 AM
I think it's important to remember that when the Monster made its debut back in the '90s there was only the 900 here in the US and it was quite a few years later that Ducati opened up the range to include a 4v model.  On the other end of that spectrum, we never even got the 400 Monster in this country.  I wouldn't be surprised one bit to find Ducati working on a 4v model based on the new body style we now have in the 696 and 1100, but they've certainly got to test the waters and make sure the 1100 sells well in the new look.  So far the feedback looks good so I think we can keep our fingers crossed and remain hopeful.  Certainly the Streetfighter is not a Monster, and the price for the S model (to be released first) definitely cements that notion.  Meanwhile, those of us with S4R and S4RS models can take comfort in having fairly unique models that (hopefully) gain some collectible status.  I know I'm darn glad I bought my S4RS Tricolore and can't imagine ever selling it.  A fine testament to a grand iconic body style that has now passed into the history books.  Long live our Monsters!

I think from what they've said, the 4V motor will not fit in the new frame.

What I find interesting is in the archived site for the 2001 S4, Ducati was touting it's "weight of just 193 kg, the bike offers astonishing acceleration and through-the-gearsperformance, while mantaining the famous Monster handling. " The bike had 101 HP. 8 years later the replacement is 30kg lighter, 50 HP more powerful and handles much better. I'd say that's good progress.

Quote from: superjohn on November 17, 2008, 01:41:43 PM
I think from what they've said, the 4V motor will not fit in the new frame.

The 696 at Indy had a 996 motor in it if I'm not mistaken.

Quote from: Cucciolo on November 17, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
The 696 at Indy had a 996 motor in it if I'm not mistaken.

That's true. I guess it would be more accurate to say the Testastretta would not fit in the new frame.

the s4r is a hot bike, much better looking then those new monsters,

Quote from: Cucciolo on November 17, 2008, 02:14:46 PM
The 696 at Indy had a 996 motor in it if I'm not mistaken.

The heavily modded 696 had a 4 valver in it. It fit, but who knows what was done to make it fit.

Quote from: somebastid on November 17, 2008, 04:13:12 PM
The heavily modded 696 had a 4 valver in it. It fit, but who knows what was done to make it fit.

nothing that the factory can't do.