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removing lower fork brake holder thingy?

Started by acemoney, November 22, 2008, 10:44:38 PM

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acemoney

that's probably not the name and thus why i added a picture to show.

i have a 06' 620 monster with the stock forks. does this piece come off and if so how does one take it off? (the manuals and part catalog give me nothing) i'm looking to coat that piece and assume i have to take it apart from the slider to do so, right? last, what does that tiny screw do that my tool is in in the picture?

thanks


Capo

Yes it does come off, but you will have to strip the forks. The tiny screw locks the fork bottom to the tube. The bottom is screwed onto the tube and needs heat to get it off.
Best left to a shop that has the tools and experience.


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DucHead

Check with a  flashlight, but I'm pretty sure most fork bottoms are bolted onto the bottom of the slider. 

Look at the very bottom of the piece you want to remove.  Is there a hole?  If so, look through the hole up to the bottom of the slider. Do you see an Allen bolt? 

To remove it, you'll need a socket head Allen key with a long shaft.  You have two choices: make one or buy a set.  To make one, select the correct size Allen key (the kind that have the 90* bend), cut off the bend and fit the remainder into a socket.  Or, if you have a good tool store nearby, but a set of socket head Allen keys with long (4") keys. 
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Quote from: pompetta on November 23, 2008, 05:11:05 AM
Check with a  flashlight, but I'm pretty sure most fork bottoms are bolted onto the bottom of the slider. 

Look at the very bottom of the piece you want to remove.  Is there a hole?  If so, look through the hole up to the bottom of the slider. Do you see an Allen bolt? 

To remove it, you'll need a socket head Allen key with a long shaft.  You have two choices: make one or buy a set.  To make one, select the correct size Allen key (the kind that have the 90* bend), cut off the bend and fit the remainder into a socket.  Or, if you have a good tool store nearby, but a set of socket head Allen keys with long (4") keys. 
I dont think so....

The allen screw from the bottom holds the damper rod.

That piece is threaded to the slider. The set screw pictured in the OP is just that.
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Norm

If your bike is more than about 6 months old, your chances of getting that set screw out is about nil. You might want to consider masking and painting the part.

acemoney

Quote from: Capo on November 23, 2008, 01:30:58 AM
Yes it does come off, but you will have to strip the forks. The tiny screw locks the fork bottom to the tube. The bottom is screwed onto the tube and needs heat to get it off.
Best left to a shop that has the tools and experience.

thanks! so the fork tube has threads on it and that piece is threaded on to it is what your telling me? so basically what i need to do is take that little screw off and then twist the fork tube and it should come off, right?

acemoney

Quote from: pompetta on November 23, 2008, 05:11:05 AM
Check with a  flashlight, but I'm pretty sure most fork bottoms are bolted onto the bottom of the slider. 

Look at the very bottom of the piece you want to remove.  Is there a hole?  If so, look through the hole up to the bottom of the slider. Do you see an Allen bolt? 

To remove it, you'll need a socket head Allen key with a long shaft.  You have two choices: make one or buy a set.  To make one, select the correct size Allen key (the kind that have the 90* bend), cut off the bend and fit the remainder into a socket.  Or, if you have a good tool store nearby, but a set of socket head Allen keys with long (4") keys. 

all the bolts and everything from the fork have been removed (except that little one in the picture).

acemoney

Quote from: Norm on November 23, 2008, 07:07:44 AM
If your bike is more than about 6 months old, your chances of getting that set screw out is about nil. You might want to consider masking and painting the part.

i'm not sure what one is the "set screw" but i have removed every screw on there so that's not a problem. would it harm the tube or anything else to just mask it and powder coat it?

Capo

You will have to dismantle the forks in order to remove the fork bottom.
The fork bottom is screwed to the tube, you will need clamps to hold the tube while first applying heat then unscrewing the bottom.
It would not be possible to powdercoat the fork bottom while it is still attached to the tubes.
As I stated above, if you want to do this, take your forks to someone who has both the experience and the special tools to accomplish the job.


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acemoney

Quote from: Capo on November 23, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
You will have to dismantle the forks in order to remove the fork bottom.
The fork bottom is screwed to the tube, you will need clamps to hold the tube while first applying heat then unscrewing the bottom.
It would not be possible to powdercoat the fork bottom while it is still attached to the tubes.
As I stated above, if you want to do this, take your forks to someone who has both the experience and the special tools to accomplish the job.

fork is dismantled. more than likely i will take it to someone with experience and special tools (since that's not me). i was just trying to access the situation and see how and if it comes off so i have a better understanding. when you say "screwed to the tube" do you mean screwed with a seperate screw or the tube and bottom have threads and screw together? thanks for your help

greenmonster

Quotethe tube and bottom have threads and screw together?

Yes.
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clubhousemotorsports

They are assembled with red loctite, hence the heat needed to break the parts free. Be sure not to damage the chrome slider while removing the lower.
make sure to put them together with loctite as well.

acemoney

Quote from: ducvet on November 23, 2008, 06:17:05 PM
They are assembled with red loctite, hence the heat needed to break the parts free. Be sure not to damage the chrome slider while removing the lower.
make sure to put them together with loctite as well.

thanks! what is the best way to heat them up? something like putting them by a heater.... or sticking them in an oven at 300?

clubhousemotorsports

A cylinder of mapp gas. you will see the smoke start to come out of the fork tube as the oil inside will smoke at about the time the loctite breaks down.  heat the the area where the set screw was all the way around as the treads are just below.

as always be careful and use all safety precautions when using an open flame.