Hi all:

I'm replacing both the outside engine cases on a s2r 06 clutch & alternator sides due to a slide.  Looks a little challenging but doable; any experience and advice would be appreciated.

I have ordered liquid gasket seal and have reviewed the shop manual.  Is it possible to remove the alternator case without the case puller; or am I going to do damage without?  Also there's no gasket shown on the parts list; does ducati just use the liquid gasket sealer? 

Other things to look out for while doing this?

Which brand did you buy? I had good experiences with CA-Cyleworks precut paper gaskets. Much better and you can fill up the case with oil right on the spot without having to wait for the liquid gasket to cure.

I woudlnt recommend removing the alternator case without hte case puller (a puller is so cheap its almost not worth not getting). There is a possibility that you can snap the end of the case off if you try to wedge it too much.

Clutch cover = rubber mallet time

Alternator cover *can* be done without the removal tool, but as mentioned...it's cheap and not really worth *not* getting.  Liquid sealant on both is the recommended method, but the cut paper gaskets from CA-Cycleworks are an option too.  I have no FHE with them, but have no reason to doubt that they would work.  Be sure to clean off _both_ the engine case mating surfaces as well as the cover mating surfaces of the old sealant too.

Not hard, just a little time consuming is all.

Quote from: He Man on November 22, 2008, 12:57:56 PM
Which brand did you buy? I had good experiences with CA-Cyleworks precut paper gaskets. Much better and you can fill up the case with oil right on the spot without having to wait for the liquid gasket to cure.

I woudlnt recommend removing the alternator case without hte case puller (a puller is so cheap its almost not worth not getting). There is a possibility that you can snap the end of the case off if you try to wedge it too much.

3bond Liquid Gasket 1194 - 8 bucks; yes I was considering the paper gaskets by CA-Cl also ... good idea; but as mentioned below the liquid gasket is the Ducati OEM method.

Source for a case puller?  Can aynoe offer a loaner?  Not sure ide use it again .... but maybe .....hummm always the delema!

Any cheap car steering wheel puller from your local discount auto parts store will work.  You may need to invest in a couple of screws and washers. 

Here is one example for 8 bucks:
http://www.toolking.com/products/1000150.aspx?googlebase=W150

FHE = first hand experience.

Also to note, if you dont want to buy it, you can just rent it for free at autozone. thats what i did.

Quote from: howie on November 22, 2008, 08:41:59 PM
Any cheap car steering wheel puller from your local discount auto parts store will work.  You may need to invest in a couple of screws and washers. 

Here is one example for 8 bucks:
http://www.toolking.com/products/1000150.aspx?googlebase=W150

Looks like you could make one with a piece of steel plate, a drill, and a few nuts and bolts.   

Quote from: pompetta on November 23, 2008, 04:37:48 AM
Looks like you could make one with a piece of steel plate, a drill, and a few nuts and bolts.   

You certainly could.

Quote from: pompetta on November 23, 2008, 04:37:48 AM
Looks like you could make one with a piece of steel plate, a drill, and a few nuts and bolts.   

two 12ga strips of steel, two allen bolts, a bike wheel axle, and a few axle nuts.  took about 5 minutes to throw together out of the junk drawer, worked well

good job juan!

Thanks for the pic example; I had a piece of strip metal sitting on the tank as we speak, so to speak ...email.

Thanks for the pointers all.

Two questions

1. Do you need to drain oil prior to removing Alternator Casing?

2. are new gasket a must for each time the Alternator casing is reinstalled?

If you lean the bike far enough over on the right side you do not have to drain the oil. I do this some times but prefer draining and re filling.

Yes I would se-seal everytime, there are some gaskets that claim you do not need to (hylomar) but it is not an issue to clean and re-seal. If you are not willing to clean a few gasket surfaces you really should not go inside IMHO.

"3bond Liquid Gasket 1194 "  I have not used this formula, make sure it is rated for the temperature the engine runs at. I used to use 1104 and it worked very well in some applications but would cook in others. ducati bond is expensive but works very well and a tube will last you at least a couple of complete motor teardowns.

make sure all of the parts are in the new clutch cover when you tackle that side I have seen plenty of covers shipped minus seals and other parts for the crankshaft (where the crank fits into the right side cover).

take your time don't force anything and look at the old parts in comparison before assembling.

Hey DuciD03, if it is not too much to ask, it would be really nice if you can take some pictures of the process and post them just to have another how to at the DMF, in case some one else wants to follow your steps on this.
Thanks.

Quote from: Juan on November 25, 2008, 03:13:00 PM
Hey DuciD03, if it is not too much to ask, it would be really nice if you can take some pictures of the process and post them just to have another how to at the DMF, in case some one else wants to follow your steps on this.
Thanks.

hummm, not one to photo document my every wrenching move (& odd mistake) but will try to bring the digital camera to "la Garage" when the time comes (i'm still waiting for some parts!), also kinda dicy haveing the digital camera amongst all the oily hands, tools & parts and I tend to focus on the task at hand and tend to froget all else ... but see what i can do at your request.

http://www.fokust.com/gallery/nichols_install