I have a 2000 750 Dark.  Dropped it off for an oil change and some random service.  Told my trusty mechanic guy...why don't you install K&N pods and do a re-jet.

He said.........

"Unforseen complications with the K&N pods: the bottom of the airbox also encompasses the battery tray and the fastening mechanisms for a host of ancillary electrical components.  I'm entirely certain we could retain all the necessary stuff with a little bit of ingenuity, but I should mention that this facet of the job will be a little more complex than just taking off the airbox.  How much more complex (i.e.: labor time) I can't really say until we get into it.

So, we can proceed with the pods as planned, or go with a higher-flow flat air filter and either modify your airbox lid or remove it.  I like the K&Ns just fine, even though they have their share of dectractors, but the guys at Factory recommend the BMC air filters.  I don't know if that's because they sell them or if they're empirically superior filters.  For the record, the CA Cycleworks guys seem to like K&N since they sell them exclusively.  Between the two, it's likely a wash.

The jet kit will indeed wind up in the $**-$** range, the flat filters run about $**, or the pods will run in the $** neighborhood.  We can flat rate the labor on the re-jet at $***, and the modification to the airbox, if any, will be a separate matter."

That sound about right?  Any advice?  Any insight on the rejet I could pass along to him?

background info...I have Leo Vince hight mounts with the baffle(core) removed.

Thanks for the help, you guys are great.

you shouldnt need to give your tech guy any advice on jetting....shouldnt he know how to do it???

anyway, that whole battery thing sounds about right. you can make your own battery box to move the battery.

www.ducatisuite.com has a good write up on it.

I'm a fan of keeping the airbox.

The BMC filters are more effective at stopping dirt than the K&N. I have a K&N and there's always some chunks of stuff in the airbox.

Jetting is going to depend a lot on the amount you take out of the lid.

I'm sure he does know how to do it. 

I was just wondering if given my exhaust and switch to pods would the 140 be the place to start (or smaller)...given everyone elses experience.  Maybe save a little trial and error experimentation time on the tuning end.

Give up on the concept of saving trial & error expense. Jet work is more art than science and you will simply have to accept that. To get it totally right & proper will likely take more time & expense than either you or your tech imagines. There are a lot of variables and it's not like dyno tuning a Power Commander. I speak from many years of experience on cars & bikes. For a 750 starting with a 137.5 or 140 main might not be too bad but there are more jets to sort out than just the main if you are really going to do it right.

Quote from: raulduke on December 10, 2008, 07:29:10 PM
I have a 2000 750 Dark.  Dropped it off for an oil change and some random service.  Told my trusty mechanic guy...why don't you install K&N pods and do a re-jet.

He said.........

"Unforseen complications with the K&N pods: the bottom of the airbox also encompasses the battery tray and the fastening mechanisms for a host of ancillary electrical components.  I'm entirely certain we could retain all the necessary stuff with a little bit of ingenuity, but I should mention that this facet of the job will be a little more complex than just taking off the airbox.  How much more complex (i.e.: labor time) I can't really say until we get into it.

So, we can proceed with the pods as planned, or go with a higher-flow flat air filter and either modify your airbox lid or remove it.  I like the K&Ns just fine, even though they have their share of dectractors, but the guys at Factory recommend the BMC air filters.  I don't know if that's because they sell them or if they're empirically superior filters.  For the record, the CA Cycleworks guys seem to like K&N since they sell them exclusively.  Between the two, it's likely a wash.

The jet kit will indeed wind up in the $80-$85 range, the flat filters run about $65, or the pods will run in the $80 neighborhood.  We can flat rate the labor on the re-jet at $250, and the modification to the airbox, if any, will be a separate matter."

That sound about right?  Any advice?  Any insight on the rejet I could pass along to him?

background info...I have Leo Vince hight mounts with the baffle(core) removed.

Thanks for the help, you guys are great.

Yep, Chris does like K&N alot and uses them on all his bikes when he can. He has worked on Ducatis for 10+ years and really stands behind the K&N filters as doing the best job for the best price. BMC filters are great if you can afford to drop a hundred or so for them. Cycleworks believes in helping the Ducati community spend less without sacrificing quality.

Cheers!

Also consider UNI pod filters and be sure (whatever you decide) to stuff the biggest one that you can fit.

I will say I was thinking about pods for my '99 M750.  Until I owned a GS1150 w/ pods.  I NEVER got it right.  It either tried to pull my arms out of my sockets at high RPM's or wanted to wheelie the second I started to release the clutch.  Never could get it right.  Maybe it's easier with only 2 carbs to monkey with ~

JM