yeah, blokes in sneakers....with the hardcore Dainese leather jacket on top....the head and chest will survive...the knee caps will go and the inside ankle bone apparently shatters on impact...these injuries don't sound great to me! A northern Australian state (Queensland) did a investigation into motorcycle injuries...damage to the lower half of the body FAR outweighed the upper half (some of this may be because of the riders behaviour in protecting certain areas, but they also looked at what would have been damaged not what the injury was).

Those Daytona's sound good....and the frey-daytona site in Germany is pretty good too...they make a wide range of boots in different styles (I understand you can only get one version stateside - Aussies can't get any!).

Quote from: Spidey on January 10, 2009, 11:08:21 AM
Daytona Evo Sports imported through Helimot (see Ivan's post above).   They're about $550.  The Evos are about the same thing, and like Ivan described, the inner part will last forever.  If the boots get trashed, you can just buy a new outer shell for $250 and you have a new boot.  I expect they'll pretty much last forever.   

I wear the Dainese Axial Race.  I chose them because of the inner boot which is similar to the Daytonas.   I will probably be switching to the Daytonas for the reason above though.

{loosely related threadjack begin}

Incidentally for those interested in the boots but not into the huge price tags, embrace the global economy and look at some European shops that ship to the US.  The savings are not inconsequential.  I checked a site that I've used in the past for Dainese and was amazed at the difference on these boots.  Prices below include shipping.

                                            Helimot               Motshop.de            Savings
Daytona Security Evo G3        $ 991.07                $ 526.94                464.13 (47%)
Daytona EVO Sports              $ 571.07                $ 369.99                201.08  (35%)
Daytona Roadstar GTX           $ 411.07                $ 283.22                127.85  (32%)

Some general notes on shopping abroad.

--  Continental Europe tends to have better pricing than UK dealers
--  Many of the posted prices include the VAT (17%).  For US Price multiply by .83
--  I recommend emailing the shop before ordering (some require it) to confirm sizing, price and availability.
--  Obviously exchange rates impact the pricing.  A great online tool can be found here  www.xe.com

Shops I've used that have excellent pre and post sale service include  www.bimoto.be, www.motshop.de, www.carpimoto.it and www.topcuban.com (great source for authentic Cuban cigars).

Before someone gets their panties in a bunch I am not suggesting anyone not use a local dealer, board sponsor or US dealer.  Most of my purchases are local (ca-cycleworks, pjs, yoyo, duc charlotte, duc seattle, cycle gear).  I am suggesting to at least do some due diligence before dropping a 500-1000 on anything.  Unlike some on here I don't have an unlimited moto budget.  I've agreed to a set amount with the SO.  I saved around $1000 by buying my Axial boots, Bora Jacket and Dragonfly pants abroad.   Money that was put into parts for the Duc from many of the US dealers listed above.  I figured many of you might be in a similar situation and would appreciate the info.

{threadjack end}


Cheers.

Quote from: COWBOY on January 11, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
                                            Helimot               Motshop.de            Savings
Daytona Security Evo G3          991.07                  526.94                464.13 (47%)
Daytona EVO Sports                571.07                  369.99                201.08  (35%)
Daytona Roadstar GTX             411.07                  283.22                127.85  (32%)

You've gotta be shitting me!?!  Are prices already converted from Euros?  That's a f'n steal (relatively -- it's still a shitload of money).

Quote from: Spidey on January 11, 2009, 02:39:26 PM
You've gotta be shitting me!?!  Are prices already converted from Euros?  That's a f'n steal (relatively -- it's still a shitload of money).

yes. that's the converted price using today's exchange rates.

here's the link to the page (the prices posted include the VAT don't forget to take 17% off for the US price).

http://www.motshop.de/shop/catalog/default.php?cPath=2_19_74

shipping is 36.00 Euros.  They ship to the US via Deutsch Mail and it takes 7-10 business days to arrive.

^^^ WOW!! Great info...thanks. 

shit. now i have no excuse to not have my daytonas.... make the beast with two backsers.

For a Touring boot that You can walk around in and be very comfortable I love the M Stars

I have have put 30k on my boots and they just now need to be replaced  because I took bad care of them.

The down side is they are like $400 but they should last you a few years =)

Better wear it than sorry..

do you guys daily wear your boots? 

I know i know... ATGATT but when i ride to campus... i dont really have the ability to change to shoes and i dont know how comfortable it would be to walk around in boots.  same feeling toward leather pants.   Jacket, gloves, and of course helmet are on at all riding times. 

I want something with ankle protection as thats one of my biggest fears but it seems like the boots that provide decent ankle protection either make you look like a power ranger or stole the boots off of a master chief  costume. 

Is it practical to wear a boot like the Puma 1000 v2?

I wouldnt mind wearing boots to work since i can easily have a pair of shoes waiting for me but school is a different situation.

Try the dainese torque in..I wear em all the time when riding and inside the school..

Quote from: ghosthound on January 27, 2009, 01:29:55 AM
do you guys daily wear your boots? 

I know i know... ATGATT but when i ride to campus... i dont really have the ability to change to shoes and i dont know how comfortable it would be to walk around in boots.  same feeling toward leather pants.   Jacket, gloves, and of course helmet are on at all riding times. 

I want something with ankle protection as thats one of my biggest fears but it seems like the boots that provide decent ankle protection either make you look like a power ranger or stole the boots off of a master chief  costume. 

Is it practical to wear a boot like the Puma 1000 v2?

I wouldnt mind wearing boots to work since i can easily have a pair of shoes waiting for me but school is a different situation.

I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but I really like my Sidi Streetburners. They're a half boot, over the ankle, that  has the same ratcheting fitting system of the high end Sidi boots. Really great feel for the pegs and controls too. Being a half boot, they're easy to walk around in, too.

the v2 would be impractical to walk around campus in all day.

for that type of riding I wear an older version of this boot.  It has good ankle protection, is easy to walk in, looks like a more normal shoe and is excellent on bike.

Dainese Quito  --  http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1031%7CDainese&productID=5570&showDetail=1&categoryID=774|Dainese%20Footwear&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=1030%7CApparel%20%26%20Riding%20Gear



if you like Puma these have survived a couple of crashes (pics on TOB, I think) and have received good reviews for comfort off bike.  http://store.proitalia.com/30146302.html

Quote from: ghosthound on January 27, 2009, 01:29:55 AM
do you guys daily wear your boots? 

I know i know... ATGATT but when i ride to campus... i dont really have the ability to change to shoes and i dont know how comfortable it would be to walk around in boots.  same feeling toward leather pants.   Jacket, gloves, and of course helmet are on at all riding times. 

I want something with ankle protection as thats one of my biggest fears but it seems like the boots that provide decent ankle protection either make you look like a power ranger or stole the boots off of a master chief  costume. 

Is it practical to wear a boot like the Puma 1000 v2?

I wouldnt mind wearing boots to work since i can easily have a pair of shoes waiting for me but school is a different situation.

I hear you, wearing "track race" boots all the time though they may be the most "protection" and very protective is not at times very practical if you are riding say 1-2 miles at 20-30 mph (heck i ride a bicycle in that mph range) and walking around 99% of the time like you would be in school.

If that is what you are doing, consider some of the bmw boots. I use the BMW All around boots.

like their name they are "all around" not the greatest protection but some, goes mid shin with medium ankel prtection, waterproof, and you ca walk in them and they look like normal black boots underneath jeans or pants.  Thus the name "all around" they are not the same as track boots nor do they offer that level of protection, but they are better than "just over the ankle" and they are very convenitnet if you have to walk a bit in them.

hmm ill look into that.  Thanks for the input!


Im not brand loyal to Puma but it looks like they have really good protection.  I guess im gonna have to compromise.

ok, so my local cyclegear only has the dainese torque outs and were out of my size... they were able to find a pair at another store and are shipping it to my local store.  I originally wanted the torque in but they dont even carry that model. 

I also tried on a few other boots but nothing was really that great imho except for the Dainese torque out and the Puma Desmo boots.  The price difference is about 50 bucks so i could really go either way.  Any recommendations?

I think the styling on both is phenomenal and the feel is good with both as well.  The Dainese will match my jacket (black delmar) but the Pumas dont look too far off either.  Its gonna be a tough call so im gonna need all the advice possible.