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Started by He Man, December 11, 2008, 05:11:27 PM

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EvilSteve

District 22 - guess who: Peter F. Vallone, Jr

I've emailed, I received no response.

Hopefully the re-write will be a little more fair. Personally I'm all for open pipes being made completely illegal but the proposed law was inequitable and draconian to say the least.

Howie

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Quote from: EvilSteve on January 08, 2009, 08:44:45 PM
District 22 - guess who: Peter F. Vallone, Jr

I've emailed, I received no response.

Hopefully the re-write will be a little more fair. Personally I'm all for open pipes being made completely illegal but the proposed law was inequitable and draconian to say the least.

From what I remember, a very little more fair is what it will be, far from acceptable.  If you can, go to his office in person.  If you can't catch his ear My guess is you won't) talk to someone on his staff and present Michelle's Power Point      http://www.industrialgrrrl.com/temp/      and your obviously reasonable point of view.  Also ask for a meeting.  I think it would be easy to find 20 of us that would like to speak with him.

EvilSteve

I just called his office, the lady said that I would get a call back to discuss but I won't hold my breath on that either.

EvilSteve

Of course, no one got back to me.

Does anyone have any updates?

Grrrly

we met with Council Member Avella of NE Queens.  Went very well, he stated he would not support the bill. 
At this time the bill is being re-written.  So soon it will be 416B and a new public hearing announced.
Everyone is waiting for the next hearing at City Hall to be announced.  AMA as well as another organization I believe, will be testifying against the Bill!!
Many signatures were collected on a petition at the bike show last weekend.

I was told today that the AMA attorney was impressed with my power point, and that hopefully it will open some more eyes.  Quite frankly I'm shocked how much this very simple power point has helped.
I've also learned that the AMA isn't as big as we all believe, so every little bit we can do to help ourselves really does help.


I've yet to hear from my OWN council member, which pisses me off.
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EvilSteve

Have any dates been announced for completion of the revised bill?

Personally I'd like to see them drop the EPA based definition bit. Just have them say, anyone running open pipes because that the real issue they're supposedly wanting to address.

F the AMA, still not a member, still not interested.

spike spiegel

Quote from: ToXiK on January 23, 2009, 05:55:33 PM
we met with Council Member Avella of NE Queens.  Went very well, he stated he would not support the bill. 
At this time the bill is being re-written.  So soon it will be 416B and a new public hearing announced.
Everyone is waiting for the next hearing at City Hall to be announced.  AMA as well as another organization I believe, will be testifying against the Bill!!
Many signatures were collected on a petition at the bike show last weekend.

I was told today that the AMA attorney was impressed with my power point, and that hopefully it will open some more eyes.  Quite frankly I'm shocked how much this very simple power point has helped.
I've also learned that the AMA isn't as big as we all believe, so every little bit we can do to help ourselves really does help.


I've yet to hear from my OWN council member, which pisses me off.


thanks for your continued hard work

Grrrly

for those that want to keep updated on what is going on with 416A, please join:
http://www.meetup.com/bill416/

it's short and sweet, but I would like to get more of us "independents" counted in this battle and on board.  We're trying to get this effort more organized.  There's no need for you to post whore,    ;)  but we do need everyone who is negatively going to be affected by 416A to join.  This INCLUDES anyone that would potentially park a bike at ANY time in NYC, not just residents of NYC but anyone commuting in as well, or visiting a buddy in the boroughs.
(I would appreciate if you mention that I sent ya, as usual I have the same nick over there as well  ;D)
TIA,
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lifes_an_ocean

I just received this email from Speaker Quinn

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Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts and views about Proposed Int. No. 416-A.

I know a lot of folks are concerned that this bill unfairly targets motorcyclists and could result in the widespread seizure and forfeiture of people's bikes.

Now, this is certainly not something I would support, nor do I believe it's the intent of this legislation.

Proposed Int. No. 416-A, sponsored by Council Member Gerson, is aimed specifically at reducing the level of noise in our City by prohibiting the parking, standing, or stopping of motorcycles equipped with straight pipes.  Current laws aimed at such motorcycles require the noise to be heard before the police can actually act.  However, it's difficult and often dangerous for police officers to pull over moving motorcycles, so these types of vehicles are rarely ticketed.  Proposed Int. No. 416-A would help ensure public health and safety by allowing a police officer to examine a parked motorcycle's muffler to determine whether it falls under the definition of "straight pipe" provided in the bill.

On December 14, 2006, the Council's Public Safety Committee, chaired by Council Member Peter Vallone, Jr., held a hearing to discuss the proposed bill.  After this hearing, the bill was revised.  A second hearing on the amended bill was held on December 10, 2008.

Since then Council Members have continued to meet with concerned citizens in order to discuss the proposed legislation.  Efforts are currently being made to address some of the concerns raised about the proposed law, and to help make sure that it only meets its stated intent.

As always, the health and quality of life of all New Yorkers must be our first priority when weighing this or any other legislation that may impact public safety.  Please be assured that as we continue to review this legislation and discuss changes, balancing the need to regulate noise in the city with the interests of the motorcycle community, the comments and concerns of all interested stakeholders will be taken into careful consideration.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and views on this important matter with me.  I will be sure to keep you updated on any new developments with this bill as they occur.

Sincerely,

Christine C. Quinn

Speaker

2001cromo

I just got the exact same email.   [roll]

Popeye the Sailor

Some of us have been watching this from afar.




We're pulling for ya!  [moto]
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

EvilSteve

I haven't received anything at all, apparently my council member DGAF about my opinion and request for a response. If I don't receive something, I promise that I'll never vote for him again.

There's an old saying in Tennessee â€" I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee â€" that says, fool me once, shame on â€" [pauses] - shame on you. Fool me â€" I can't get fooled again.

Howie

Quote from: 2001cromo on February 02, 2009, 12:07:58 PM
I just got the exact same email.   [roll]

Me too. Obviously a form letter.  I will respond to it though.

Grrrly

The Evil Twins:
Urban Assault Vehicle: 2002 Duc M 6/900 Industrial Edition
Track Weapons: 2004 Suzuki SV650, 2009 Kawi ZX-6R Monster Edition

Grrrly

sorry for posting this up so late

CCMS (Concerned Citizens for Motorcycle Safety) is looking for volunteers to join them in a visit to several NYC Council Members this week.



Tuesday February 3rd
-------------------------
they will be visiting 2 Council Members in Queens.


JOHN LUI
District Office Address
135-27 38th Avenue
Suite 388
Flushing, New York 11354

and

THOMAS WHITE, JR
District Office Address
145- 40 Rockaway Blvd
South Ozone Park, New York 11436


If you are available please call CCMS
MZLADYLEGZ (914) 906 -9806
JERRY (347) 682-8701
NAUGHTY (917) 474-4645

They will be meeting at 10:30 AM SHARP!!!

at the BP gas station, at Bushwick Ave (Just off the Jackie Robinson EXPWY)



Thursday, Feb. 5th
------------------------

They will be visiting 2 council members in The Bronx.

G. OLIVER KOPPELL 
District Office Address
3636 Waldo Avenue
Bronx, New York 10463

and

JOEL RIVERA
District Office Address
1901 Southern Blvd
Bronx, New York 10460


again
They will be meeting at 10:30 AM SHARP!!!

at BP  gas station, at Bushwick Ave (Just off the Jackie Robinson EXPWY)

ANYONE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING PLEASE CONTACT CCMS, INC.
MZLADYLEGZ (914) 906-9806
JERRY (347) 682-8701
NAUGHTY (917) 474-4645
The Evil Twins:
Urban Assault Vehicle: 2002 Duc M 6/900 Industrial Edition
Track Weapons: 2004 Suzuki SV650, 2009 Kawi ZX-6R Monster Edition