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Tech/ maintnace session II

Started by bullethead, March 05, 2009, 05:45:15 PM

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bullethead

I spoke with Stuart day before yesterday about our next tech session specifically what I have heard at the last tech session and what's been posted on the board.  Stuart is of the mind that a general mechanics / how to limp it in when things go bad kind of class. I asked about a transmission class and he seems to think that there is not enough material for one class. If Transmission is something you really want, we probably want to look at what other less complex subjects we could we could tackle in the same class. I also think we need to write a sort of list of 1) things you want to accomplish/ learn 2) this is for after the a subject is chosen what specific questions about the subject mater do you have, to include what models/year/ set up. That way Stuart can have any examples he needs and we don't miss anything we wanted to see/ learn. Please tell me where I am screwy or what I missed when you post what you want. Once I get several subjects I'll post a poll. Or I'll shut up an leave well enough alone.

Kirk

Cher


Thanks Kirk for taking this on; I appreciate your efforts.  Now all I've got to do is make the NEXT tech session  [bang]

[beer]

Lisa

sdlrodeo

I like the idea of learning more about Trans/gearbox stuff and even crank/con rods/pistons including bearing replacements. I was chatting with Stuart about maybe a fork service (don't remember what came of it) he said he didn't have shock compression tools. I liked dealing with cdc's fueling issues and am interested in more of that to include TPS.

Thanks for pursuing this.

Steve

Wrist is to throttle as finger is to trigger.

Cher


Given the chatter on another thread right now, I'd like to ask Stuart to talk about Ducati engines; bevel drive vs. belt drive; brass shells vs. roller bearings; Desmodromic valves vs. conventional valve springs Vs. pneumatic valve actuation; design reasons for a horizontally split engine case vs. whatever the L-Twin has now  ;D   And maybe he could shed some light on the valve gear in the D16GP6 engine   [evil]

I'd be really interested in all that.

[beer]

Giannis

Billy: We did it, man. We did it, we did it. We're rich, man. We're retirin' in Florida now, mister....
Captain America: You know Billy, we blew it....
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Ronr

Just think of the beautiful clatter that would make if you mix in an open dry clutch!  What is that out of?

Giannis

Quote from: Ronr on March 09, 2009, 09:51:06 PM
Just think of the beautiful clatter that would make if you mix in an open dry clutch!  What is that out of?

VFR ;D
Billy: We did it, man. We did it, we did it. We're rich, man. We're retirin' in Florida now, mister....
Captain America: You know Billy, we blew it....
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RED


Giannis

Quote from: RED on March 10, 2009, 09:49:40 AM
Were all the VFR's 5 cylinders?

Actualy this is the Virtual design on a New VFR1000 V5 motor which people still waiting. VFR800 and 750 were 4  cyclinder but they did use Cam Gear driven
Billy: We did it, man. We did it, we did it. We're rich, man. We're retirin' in Florida now, mister....
Captain America: You know Billy, we blew it....
www.speedjunkies.gr

bullethead

Shop:
Trans/gearbox and…
crank/con rods/pistons including bearing replacements
fork service
fueling issues and TPS
Ducati engines(comparative design aspects)
Ducati engines(general function)
Proper care and adjustment of your chain.
How to remove and properly reinstall the front and rear wheel

Emergency:
Diagnosing the bike won't start. Is it electrical or fuel?
What to do if the motor dies while riding.
Diagnosing bike failing to shift.
What to do if you do get a flat tire.
What should be in your tool kit.
The above would include emergency fixes.

I paraphrased and divided some of the subjects into two categories. If I screwed up your intended subject Please let me know so I can correct it. I am probably going to take the whole thread and print it in order to go through it with Stuart and see what is feasible or not and what should be grouped together. I am listing it like this to see if it stimulates any other subjects and so that you guys can look it over and be sure I have the subjects correct.

Kirk

bryant8

Kirk that looks like a good list of topics

Something to add:  Suspension basics
2008 848
Mods: Full Termignoni Race Exhaust/ECU Tuned by AMS, Ducati Performance Dry Clutch Slipper Clutch, Öhlins steering damper
Next: Öhlins TTX shock and Öhlins fork internals, track body work
26.2 done 12/5/2010
70.3 by 10/12/2011
140.6 by 12/31/2012

Cher


That looks like a stellar list Kirk; all sorts of good stuff in there although this one is my favorite...


Quote from: bullethead on March 10, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
Shop:
Trans/gearbox and…
crank/con rods/pistons including bearing replacements
fork service
fueling issues and TPS
Ducati engines(comparative design aspects)
Ducati engines(general function)
Proper care and adjustment of your chain.
How to remove and properly reinstall the front and rear wheel

Emergency:
Diagnosing the bike won't start. Is it electrical or fuel?
What to do if the motor dies while riding.
Diagnosing bike failing to shift.
What to do if you do get a flat tire.
What should be in your tool kit.
The above would include emergency fixes.

I paraphrased and divided some of the subjects into two categories. If I screwed up your intended subject Please let me know so I can correct it. I am probably going to take the whole thread and print it in order to go through it with Stuart and see what is feasible or not and what should be grouped together. I am listing it like this to see if it stimulates any other subjects and so that you guys can look it over and be sure I have the subjects correct.

Kirk



Thanks for putting this list together.  Hopefully we can get another tech session going soon  [thumbsup]

Lisa

Ronr

Stuart did a great job at Tech I, starting out with a tool briefing.

Maybe he could recommend a travel tool kit.  It would be a little different for different bikes, but mostly standard stuff.  Even stuff you wouldn't think of (like what I saw Hiero use on my 1098 in the HC), things like zip ties, rags, ziplock sammich bags, a syphoning/bleeding hose, asswipe, snakebite kit, etc.

hiero

I'd actually be really interested in how to install new pistons/rings and how to lap valves and clean up the carbon deposits on valves/tops of pistons...
2000 Monster 750
1999 748
YELLOW!!

Cher


Porting  [thumbsup]

I guess what interests me most is engine building  ???  In fact, while I'm dreaming, I'd like to be a RACE ENGINE builder...